Delete render files in FCP X 10.1.1

Hello, I desparately need to delete render files for old projects, but it seems this has changed in FCP 10.1.1.
There is no longer an option to Delete Project Render Files - there is only Delete Event Render Files - but the event library/browser on top left has changed, it now includes projects and don't really see events. I choose my project but the Delete Event Render Files is disabled.... how can I delete the render files?
thanks
dan

Yes there is. Select the project in the event and it will appear.

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