Deleted files on back-up disk

Hi,
I've backed up my aperture files onto my new LaCie external HD 4 times now. Last time, I deleted several old images from Aperture before backing up. Now, when I click on the LaCie HD icon on my desktop, I see a new folder called "d2Quadra Deleted Images". (d2Quadra is the name I gave my new back up drive). I guess I have 3 related questions:
1) After files are backed up from my desktop HD onto an external backup drive, and are later deleted from my desktop HD, are they also deleted from my backup drive the next time I back up? (I assume they are.)
2) If, in fact, they are deleted from the back up drive, does the back up drive keep a copy of them in a deleted files folder?
3) If so, it seems a waste of disk space--can I occasionally delete the folder (or, at least, the folders inside that folder) that (I assume) Aperture created called, "d2 Quadra Deleted Images?"
I'm reluctant to touch anything inside the LaCie icon based on previous advice I've been given in this forum. thank you, Mike

oldster wrote:
1) After files are backed up from my desktop HD onto an external backup drive,
and are later deleted from my desktop HD, are they also deleted from my backup
drive the next time I back up? (I assume they are.)
What backup software are you using?
Looby

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