Deleting a virtual copy from a collection

Hi!
I just tried to implement a workflow based on collections and sometimes virtual copies instead of folders. But I ran into a problem quickly: I found no way to delete a virtual copy directly from a collection. Here is what I tried to do:
- packing each shooting in a separate folder (like before)
- creating a new Collection Set for this shooting and inside this one Collection "all" where I put all photos in
- creating other Collections for the tasks that I need e.g. "print", "blog", "photobook for parents", ...
Then my idea was to use only virtual copies in these task-Collections. Creating the copies and working with them works great, as I expected. Only one little problem came out:
- When I look to the old folder, all virtual copies are shown there -- and counted. So the displayed number of photos is nearly useless to me. Hasn't that been different in LR1 or 2?! Is there a way to change this behaviour?
But this is not the main problem. The main problem is:
- When I decide not to use a photo from a task (which is removing the virtual copy from the collection), I found no way to *delete* the virtual copy. It is only *removed* from the collection. So I have lots of unused dead virtual copies in the original folder (which makes the displayed number even more useless).
I found one complicate workaround: Not deleting the virtual copy, but marking it with "x" as "abgelehnt" (forgot the english word, sorry :-) and later deleting all marked photos.
But even if I try hard, I will forget this sometimes.
So is there at least a way to show all virtual copies, which are not in a collection?
I found ways to either make a filter or a smart collection with only virtual copies. And I can right-click on each and look in the submenu "go to collection..." to see whether is is member of a collection. But I found no way to make this with a smart collection, because the option "not empty" is not available for the collection field.
I just found the very very complicate solution:
- go to the folder, delete the "keep" flag from all virtual copies
- set the "keep" flag on all photos
- go to each collection and set the "keep" flag on all copies (or photos)
- deleting all copies without the keep flag
This will of course also delete all virtual copies which are used in collections which I forgot to choose.
So I would like one of two things:
- an option "delete virtual copies if removed from a collection and not member of another collection"
- or a filter/smart collection way of showing virtual copies which are not member of any collection
At the moment, I think I will keep my old workflow which was to work with folders and snapshots. Which is also by no means free of drawbacks. Hmm, then again, when comparing: My old workflow has the risk of loosing work (when changing anything without having made a snapshow), but the new workflow has only the disadvantage of having garbage and of not knowing the number of real photos... sounds better maybe ;-)
But maybe there is a solution for my problems?!?! Help please ;-)
Greetings, Joerg

I found no way to delete a virtual copy directly from a collection.
Ctrl+Alt+Chift+Delete.
Hasn't that been different in LR1 or 2?!
No.
Is there a way to change this behaviour?
No. But if you say, you have an "all" collection in your shoot set, you can see the number there. Why judge the count from the folder? You can also use the Library Filter to filter by negatives and/or virtual copies. You can use smart collections somehow, to filter out VCs.
So is there at least a way to show all virtual copies, which are not in a collection?
Create a smart collection with the following rules:
Copy name contains "copy"
and
Collection does not contain "a e u i o"
an option "delete virtual copies if removed from a collection and not member of another collection"
Use the SC above, select all, and hit Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Delete.
- or a filter/smart collection way of showing virtual copies which are not member of any collection
Same as above.

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