Deleting keywords in filter HUD

I have many keywords in my aperture filter HUD that I want to delete -- like typos and keywords I no longer use. I know how to delete them from the keyword HUD, but I can't figure out how to delete them from the filter HUD that pops up when I try to create a smart album. Can anyone tell me how to delete keywords from the filter HUD? Also I have duplicate keywords from importing from iphoto, so the filter HUD will list as separate keywords: soccer (iPhoto) and soccer. I would like to have just one keyword for soccer.
Thanks for the help.

fcandy wrote:
Thanks, but my Mac doesn't have a backspace key and delete doesn't work. Is there something else I should be pressing?
William was referring to the Keyword HUD (and on my MBP, "{fn}+{delete}" equals backspace). There is a "Delete Keyword" button in the tool-strip located in the bottom border of the Keyword HUD.
Kirby, I understand that your suggestion will help me get the right keywords in the right places, but how can I delete keywords in the filter hub?
This is not how Aperture works. Use the Keywords HUD to manage Keywords. The Filter HUD dynamically shows Keywords. You cannot add, delete, move, or in any way administer Keywords from the Filter HUD.
Even if there are no photos to which that keyword is assigned it still appears in the filter HUD -- I have used smart albums to find all photos assigned to a keyword and deleted the keyword from each one so there are no photos that have that keyword, but it still appears in the filter HUD.
1. Make sure you aren't filtering your view in any other way. Be sure to flush your entire trashway (rejected, Aperture Trash, system Trash).
2. Sometimes Aperture takes several moments to catch up on changes. You can force a re-filter by selecting another Keyword, then re-selecting the one you want. I don't know if this forces a refresh of the Keywords in the Filter HUD. You might have to make another selection in the Library tab of the Inspector, then return to your previous selection and re-pop-up the Filter HUD.
3. If you want to remove all instances of a Keyword, delete it from the Keyword HUD. There is no reason to hunt it down and remove it from every Version to which it is applied.
4. Regularly, and especially if you migrated photos from iPhoto, you will end up with two Keywords with the same name (they are located at different levels of the Keyword hierarchy. Use the Keyword HUD to merge them (by dragging and dropping). "Dog", "Animals>Dog", and "Animals>Domesticated>Four-legged>Household>Dog" are each distinct Keywords to Aperture.

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Adding/Deleting keywords for multiple images

Well, I'm finally paying the price for bad keyword management and I'm trying to clean up my nightmare of a system now but running into trouble.
I'm using Lightroom 3.2.
My workflow follows one of two types:
1) I'm shooting something specific (soccer games) and I import the shots and immediately assign the appropriate keywords (soccer, which kid it is, which tournament it is)
2) I've taken shots of multiple events/subjects and I haven't had time to download and organize. I will then import with a 'file later' tag so I can easily search and keyword them later and then re-use the card.
Well 'file later' is now about 3000 images! Doh!
I'm going through and properly assigning them but I'm having a lot of trouble with what I *think* should work in Lightroom.
There are several things here:
First, if I choose the 'File Later' keyword, it will pull up the metadata filters options on the top of the grid view. No matter what I do, I can't make it go away. If I do get it to go away, I wind up viewing ALL my pictures which is not what I want.
Second, if I choose multiple pictures by ctrl-clicking or shift-clicking, It appears I can assign a keyword to multiple shots. I cannot REMOVE a keyword from multiple shots. Lightroom seems to only want to remove the keyword from one picture at a time even if they are all selected.
Third, the painter tool does not work...at all. Enabling it and then selecting and applying or removing does nothing.
So, what am I looking for here?
Organizing for these should be pretty easy since most are in blocks and I can apply the same keywords quickly. However, removing the keywords one at a time is a huge pain.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks

First, if I choose the 'File Later' keyword, it will pull up the metadata filters options on the top of the grid view. No matter what I do, I can't make it go away. If I do get it to go away, I wind up viewing ALL my pictures which is not what I want.
This is the filter dialog - of course if you close it you turn back to All Photographs. Try creating a Smart Collection based on your File Later keyword - this collection will automatically populate all your images that have that particular keyword. Once you have keyworded the pictures from e.g. one particular shot, just remove the File Later-KW and those images will disappear from the collection.
Second, if I choose multiple pictures by ctrl-clicking or shift-clicking, It appears I can assign a keyword to multiple shots. I cannot REMOVE a keyword from multiple shots. Lightroom seems to only want to remove the keyword from one picture at a time even if they are all selected.
I'm not sure why you can't remove keywords from multiple images - it just works fine here by selecting multiple images and delete the keyword.
Most of the times I use the Keyword List to assign/delete keywords because in my opinion it is the easiest way - I just browse thru my list or filter for a particular kw and tick the box on the left.
Creating a hierarchical keyword list can further simplify your work. For example the location: organize the final keyword xyz-Soccer Stadium into other keywords like Town>County>State>Country>Continent>Places, then you only have to tick the last keyword xyz-Soccer Stadium and with that assign all of those keywords in the hierarchy (I know thats kind of a complicated explanation...but I suggest you play around a bit and then you will get the full picture ).

Customize the Filter HUD

Is is possible to customize the Filter HUD?
I don't use the Flagged or *Color Label* options often, but would like Calendar to be part of the filter every time.
Can I remove the ones I don't use and add calendar? If so how would I do that?
TIA
Jerry

trythis1 wrote:
In the filter hud there is a white minus sign far right of the filter you want to remove , click that, if
you want it back click add rule (top right)
Ray,
Thanks for the response. I am aware of the controls you mentioned and, of course, I have had to use them.
I'm just a little put out that for this kind of filter I have no better control of the filter items than this. As I said earlier I almost never flag or color images and almost ALWAYS use the calendar so it becomes a huge PIA to delete and add these filters every time I want to look for and/or work on specifically dated images.
I think I ought to be able to designate the default filter items.
Thanks again for your interest and assistance.
Jerry
I am very new to Ap3 so ignore me if it is't what you are looking for
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Can I restore deleted keywords in Bridge CS5?

I accidentally deleted a long string of keywords in Bridge and I don't even remember what they all were. Any way to get them back?

Not that I know of. HOWEVER, if you did not delete the keywords on the photos, when you visit a folder with those deleted keywords it will write them back to the list. If they are itacalized, they are temporary, or right click on them and choose persistent.
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I was really curious why it took so long for the filter hud to open and I think I may have at least a partial answer. I used the awesome Sampler and fs_usage tools that come with the developer kit. I started profiling and pushed the filter button. Here's what I found:
1) A bunch of database access happens in the main thread. When you push the filter hud button you loose control of the application (SBOD) until the query is complete. I'm guessing it's asking the database which keywords exist in the currently selected project so it can make filter buttons for them. Why does a query of 600 images take 10 seconds...
2) Whenever you push the filter hud button thousands of little seeks and reads happen on the hard disk. I'm assuming this is the bottleneck.
Is this interesting to anyone? It's wandering off the standard subject matter a bit. However, performance is abysmal and knowing is half the battle!
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I've dissected the SQLite database that Aperture uses. My current best guess is that either Aperture is doing something wrong with SQLite or it's doing extra queries that I don't understand. I recreated the database query that gives you a list of keywords for all images in the working set. It only took between 1/4 and 1/2 second to execute. Opening the filter hud in Aperture with the same working set of images takes over 3 seconds.
I've posted more detailed information on my site. It includes an overview of the database structure.
http://www.mungosmash.com/archives/2005/12/theapertureda.php
This is good news to me. It means the Aperture guys only have themselves to blame and should be able to speed it up considerably since the db is fast.
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How to increase the choice of possible filter items in the filter HUD?

Hi there,
didn't know how to exactly formulate a nice header for my question.
Here goes:
In the filter HUD, I can add a new rule to search for, and choose "Aperture Metadata" as
the source of possible tags. However, for some reason, the choice of tags I am confronted
with is not exhaustive; for example, the Aperture tag "Badges" is not in the list
of tags that one can search for in the filter HUD.
To solve my immediate problem, I would like to know how I can search for specific values of the
tag "Badges" that is part of the "Aperture" Metadata Field.
On a more general note, I would like to know how one can add or delete choices that the filter HUD offers.
For example, if I add a custom field, what do I have to do to make it searchable in the filter HUD?
Thanks for any help!

Maybe we do not use the word "Metadata" in the same way.
The only issue I see is this:
. "Badges" are not metadata. They are icons which indicate metadata. The distinction is important in this discussion, because "Badges" is not a family of metadata, other than being the family of metadata to which the Aperture design team has assigned icons which can be shown in some views. It is important to understand that while the badge is a member of the set "Metadata which Aperture shows as an icon", the actual metadata indicated by the badge is a member of an actual metadata set. With apologies for being cute, "Badges" are meta-metadata.
I had the following proposition: not all metadata is searchable.
I believe this is correct, but not as widespread as you indicate.
I then proofed this proposition by showing that Aperture can search for specific
values of the "badges" tag ("locate referenced files"->"show only files not found"), and
went on by claiming that the filter HUD does not offer to do this exact same search.
"Badges" is not a tag, nor is it metadata in the sense you are using the term.
The Filter HUD may do what you are asking. As I posted in direct response in another message in this thread, I think the two-rule "and"-type filter
. File Status is Referenced
. File Status is Missing
will do what you want.
As always, I cannot conclusively prove what Aperture cannot do, I can only say that I did not find this option in the filter HUD, and would be happy if anyone told me how to do it.
If I turn out to be correct, you are welcome.
This was just one example.
Judging from my lists cited in one of my posts above, one is tempted to think that Aperture's filter HUD is not capable of searching for "Badges", "Flag", "Import Session", "Label", "Last Modified Date", and "Rating".
All of these Items appear in the "Aperture" Section of the "Metadata Fields" in the "Metadata View" dialog that opens when you hit "edit" on the drop-down box in the Metadata Pane of the Inspector, but do not appear in the "Aperture Metadata" list of items in the filter HUD.
It turns out that all but "Badges" and "Last Modified Date" are items that can be searched for in
the filter HUD; The other candidates for "non-searchability" ("Flag","Label", "Last Modified Date", and "Rating") do not appear in the "Aperture Metadata" part of the filter HUD, where you would expect them, but they exist in other parts of the filter HUD.
There is some sense to this. I will add, however, that they do not appear where you expect them (logically, btw), does not mean that they do not appear where others expect them. Our expectations are ruled more by experience than by logic.
Flag status is, in Aperture, what might be described as a privileged metadata field. There is an entire apparatus for flagging, un-flagging, and viewing flagged items; no other metadata has been accorded such privilege (a hot key, the click-able flag hotspot, the flag overlay, the Flag View).
"Label" is also (using my nomenclature) a "privileged" metadata field (just not as privileged as "Flag").
Likewise "Rating".
While I therefore was able to search for some Metadata fields of the "Aperture" part of the Metadata Field ("Flag","Label", "Import Session", and "Rating", in addition to all items listed in the "Aperture Metadata" option in the filter HUD), I was completely unable to search for others ("Badges" and "Last Modified Date").
See my comments on Badges above.
"Last Modified Date" is a special case. There was a good (iirc) thread about this earlier. I will look for it. Iirc, you can get LMD to show in List view, but you cannot search for it. This is silly -- worth a feature request to Apple. LMD is the only metadata I know of (not, perhaps, saying much) that is not searchable via the Filter HUD.
I therefore think that I did proof (to the extent I am capable of) that not all metadata is searchable - and my question simply is "how do I make these metadata searchable". Or, alternatively, "how do I control the metadata items that the filter HUD allows me to search for".
Yours is a very synthetic approach, which I applaud. The audience for your questions, however, is more properly the Aperture designers, and not fellow users. The only way I can answer your questions is when you specify what it is you are trying to do (for example above: filter your images for referenced and missing). Please ask about whatever specific things you are unable to do.
Hope that helps.
Kirby.

LR2-How delete keyword tags

In LR 1.4, I was able to delete keywords from multiple photos by:
1. Highlighting the photos
2. Deleting the targeted keywords from the keyword tags panel.
This is consistent in the LR2 help files: "With photos selected in the Grid view or the Filmstrip, do any of the following: To remove keyword tags from photos, select one or more keyword tags in the Keyword Tags area of the Keywording panel and delete them."
However, this does not work in LR2 on my Vista machine. I can delete keywords from individual photos but if more than on photo is highlighted, the keyword is removed from the first file only. Is this a bug or am I missing something? Thanks in advance, dave

> I can delete keywords from individual photos but if more than on photo is highlighted, the keyword is removed from the first file only. Is this a bug or am I missing something?
You must be doing it in something other than the grid view. If so, then the this behavior is correct.

How to delete keywords from more than one image at once?

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I've selected a group of images, but when I delete the keywords, it only deletes them from the highlighted (targeted?) image and not from the other selected images. I've also tried syncing metadata and I get the same results.
Help would be appreciated.
Antonio

Interesting bug I just found, I think.
When the Grid is up on the second monitor, only one images is affected by the deletion of the keywords. When I put the Grid mode back on the main screen, I was able to delete keywords from all the selected images.
Shouldn't it work the same no matter what screen the Grid mode is on?

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I'm sorry, I am not able to figure out what you mean by this sentence. Perhaps you could try rephrasing it? "Typo" means a mistake in data entry (a mistyping) but there was no data entry involved here (I never manually assigned the keyword "Movie" to anything). Rather than an error in data entry, do you perhaps mean a mistake made by iPhoto? That would be a "defect" (or "bug" to use the programmer's euphemism) rather than a "typo." Or do you mean something else.
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When I started trying Lightroom three weeks ago, I imported a few folders to learn with and created a keyword hierarchy.
Then when I imported all my photos, the keywords assigned in Bridge came along for the ride, giving me something to do with my time straighten it back to the structure I had created.
I use Bridge for renaming. Renaming my photos with the date first is a priority right now to help straighten out a mess of scanned photos not organized by date. It's been a slow process but necessary and I find it much easier to do in Bridge.
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I think that if you are creating a new Ligtroom catalog, and importing your photos, that they will reflect what you have done in Bridge.
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Start Lightroom, create a new catalog, import say 5 photos and see what Lighroom shows as keywords. Select a photo in Lightroom, change its keywords, save the changes and see if Bridge shows the change. Do the same then in Bridge, and Lightroom should show an icon at the top right of the frame in Grid view. Right-Click on it and "read metadata from file". The keywords should show the Bridge changes.
I think you will see that Keywords operate fairly well between both programs. (If I had the time now I would have experimented for you, but I thought that suggesting something would be faster and work better).
I think that when you have finished all your keywording in Bridge, you can safely create Lighroom catalog and import all you photos, and the new Bridge keywords will be there. (None of the old Lightroom catalog keywords should show up).
p.s I am not atall sure of the syntax in Bridge for entering Parent-Child keywords, but Lightroom's syntax is Child>Parent. I had to think about the Lightroom syntax, because I always think the > is the "greater than" symbol in maths etc, but now I look at as a branching from Parent to Child. Amazing how the little things become " gotchas".

Can't Delete Keywords. How Delete Keywords?

I can't delete keywords easily.    How can I delete keywords easily?
I found instructions that said to select the keyword.    But I have no way to select the keyword.   At least I haven't found the way.     In the Library, where the keywords are, I found no way to select them.   Clicking on them does no good.
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Glad you got it sorted out. (I didn't mean to get into a controversy; sometimes there's just a bit of to-and-fro before the particular problem is identified)
The item "containing keywords" AFAIK relates to the ability to nest keywords inside each other. For example, say I have the keyword "France" and the keyword "Paris". Now I put just the keyword Paris onto an image, and then in the keyword list, drag Paris inside France so that it indents as a sub-keyword. This now means that when I search for images using the term "France", this image will start showing up - even though it does not explicitly have the keyword France - since it qualifies indirectly through its keyword Paris (which counts as being "a France keyword", due to being nested logically inside that). Also when exporting, you can opt to have LR award the France keyword explicitly in such a case (just for the exported copy). So: this option previews any such extra "parent" keywords which would get added, or which are additionally used for searches, due to nesting. If you un-nested the keywords tomorrow, that behaviour would stop. Of course, if you did explicitly add France as well as Paris, then nested or not nested, would make no practical difference.
The item "Will Export" AFAIK relates to the ability to conceal particular keywords from exporting - by clearing a checkbox in the keyword properties. These operate internally as normal, only when exported, they get left out. Perhaps they are purely there for organisational or workflow reasons - or some kind of a private flag or rating which is never intended for public consumption. This option previews the omission of those keywords, which would happen if you exported - I guess, allowing a check that nothing will be included that you don't want to be.
Both these options are rather specialised; it is far more normal AFAICT, to just leave this set to "Enter Keywords".
regards, RP

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