Deleting the profit centre

hi,
I have a problem when deleting a profit center as follows :
1.when deleting from Tools in config we got the message
" profit centre scenario is active in general ledger".
2.when deleting from application menu:
            (a)The "Set to inactive " function is grayed out.
            (b)when you mark the profit center for deletion we got the message
              "profit center scenario is active in general ledger".
this happens in all clients.
please help as we are going live shortly.
your help is highly appreciated
waiting eagerly for the response.

Hi,
Try with T.code KCH5N.
Regards
Mani

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