Deletion of archivelog disk out of space

hi,
can anyone help me how to delete the archive logs as my disk space is going out of space.
thankyou
satyanag

Hi,
I totally agree with Khurram. The removal of archive logs might seem like quite simple subject on the surface - but you must give very serious thought to your backup and recovery strategy.
In answer to your question, this command will list any archivelogs (amongst other things) which have been backed-up and are no longer required to be held on disk:
report obsolete;
Run it, review the output, and if you want to go-ahead and remove the items identified, run this:
delete obsolete;
In the future, you might want to alter your backup script so that it automatically removes archive logs. You probably have a line that looks something like this:
backup archivelog all
Adding 'delete input' to the end will remove archive logs after they have been backed up.
backup they all delete input
Cheers,
Andy Barry
http://www.shutdownabort.com

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