Delivering Plant.... as in Shipping Conditions

Hi Every one,
The shipping point is determined by the following,
1)Shipping conditions..from CUSTOMER MASTER RECORD
2)Loading Group ..from MATERIAL MASTER RECORD
3) and Delivering Plant...from SALES ORDER
My question is, what it means by that the system determines," the delivering plant of the line item in the SALES ORDER".
How the system determines" Plant" from the "SALES ORDER", as there is no "Plant" in the "SALES ORDER".
I appreciate your help.
Thanks.
VM

Hi there,
When you enter a material in a sales order, it is the plant determination that happens 1st.
Plnt is determined from customer - material info record VD51. If it is not maintined there, system will check for customer master record (sales area data --> Shipping). It doesnot find there also then system will look for material master --> sales general plant. System is sure to find the plant in material master as it will not allow you save MM01 without plant.
After plant determiantion, shippiing point is determined:
Shipping conditions (either from VOV8 --> shipping or from customer master --> shipping) / loading grp (material master --> sales general) / Plant (which is proposed from above process.
After shipping point, route determination happens.
Hope this clarifies.
Regards,
Sivanand

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