Delivery order for sub-contract processing scenario

Hi experts,
We got a requirement from our users to sub-contract certain production processing steps (or called external processing per SAP). Same part number would be used for the goods issue and goods receipt. But would like to make the delivery for the goods issuing as the delivery for normal sales parts. (Purchase order -> Delivery order -> Shipping and Packing)
Sub-contract processing will generate purchase order like service order which only contains service fee item, and we found that no outbound delivery order can be created with reference to purchase order in standard SAP.
Have you experienced such scenario before and could share to us please?
Regards

When moving subcontracting part to your subcontractor you can do it via:
1. simple goods movement
2. delivery
1 Simple goods movement (transfer posting)
- /w reference to PO (MB1B + 541)
- w/o reference to PO (MB1B / MIGO + 541)
2 Delivery
Using the before mentioned ME2O you can create the delivery w/o reference to PO
Please note that even if you use the MB1B541PO reference solution, system just suggests the component qunantity on the PO w/o making a real link between PO and goods movement. You can example do the MB1B541PO reference "as many times" as you want...
So, as per my best knowledge there's no solution for your requirement.
I guess one reason of system's behaviour might be that provision of compoenents doesn't depend on one single PO - if you want to reduce your shipment cost you will send out lots of components at once, more than the amount needed for one call-off.
Regards,
Csaba

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External activity               -e-   -e- TRA1 86 460960      96 460960
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Purchase account                -e-   -e- -e-   40 --Missing- 50 --Missing-
Materials management exch.rate -e-   -e- -e-   40 440600      50 440600
Cost (price) differences        -e-        TRA1 83 440000      93 440005
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