Dell DataSafe vs Windows 7 Backup & restore

I bought a Dell I620. I made 3 disks using Dell's DataSafe program. I used DVD+R disks for that. I'm hearing that DVD
disks are not that reliable. I plan eventually to get a Ext HD, because they have come down a lot in cost. Until then, what
type of disks should I use for backups?
I'm wondering too, is it better to use the Dell DataSafe program, or Windows Backup & Restore. In Windows Backup & Restore, after making the system repair disk, there are two choices: Image and Full Backup. Which is better and is there
a way to estimate the size of the file that I have to store on disks.

DVD disc are not that reliable for a few reasons. One of them is that the surface that the data is burned into is a bio matter and can degrade over time. Two scratches can screw event he best dvd up. Three your computer could have possible burned the disc wrong and you will never know it untill you need them. With all that said you should be good in the 8-9 year mark on dvd's. If you still worried an external HDD ( or hard drive) is a good way to go as it thumb drive. When backing your stuff up redundancy is key, especially when it comes to family photo's and tax returns. Trust me the last thing you want to do is pay GeekSquad a 100 bucks for a data recovery. I would suggest biting the bullet and buy 2 1tb external drives and a package of dvd's. Back everything up to one drive then copy and past over to the next drive. Any tax returns and pictures you cant live with out burn to the dvd's as well. Keep this data in seperate locations ie away from your computer, safety deposit box, someone else house ect. the last thing you want to do is have a house fire and loose your stuff anyway.
as far as part two............
I personaly dont use any of that. Once I have my recovery disc made any data i need to save i keep on externals. If my computer craps the bed i can just reload it if i cant fix it. ........... reloading is cheaper and easier then paying geeksquad 200 bucks for an automated virus removal.
Hope this helps and sorry if it was hard to read.

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(C) Copyright 2004 Microsoft Corp.
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