Dell Hardware on Linux or Solaris x86

Hi,
My company is considering moving to dell hardware in a move to drive TCO down. We currently run Sun sparc (240, 490,890) servers and they are nearing end of life. Doing the research, even visited some vendors and from what we've seen, running either RH 5 or even Solaris (x86) on Dell could prove to be a good move. We're running mostly 10.2 databases with a couple of 9.2 that we hope to have upgraded by year end.
Has anyone made a similar move and what is your experience? I worked on Dell about 4 years ago and back then we felt there were reliability issues. They crashed a little too often for my liking. I realize some of it was do to OS panics and not just hardware but that is part of the package.
Any feedbackup would be greatly appreciated.

If you're going to go Dell, you might aswell go the whole way and run RedHat.
Aside from the support issues mentioned (I'm not familiar with that aspect) Solaris has a history of being much more expensive to run (largely due to the cost of the employees that know it) with the major advantage being: better integration with Sun hardware.
As for Dell reliability, there's a reason we're an HP shop..

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Did you try it?
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- http://solarisguide.com
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