Dell SW198FWP 19" LCD Calibration Issues

Hi,
I have just purchased a 19" Dell Widescreen LCD Monitor (SE198WFP)and I'm not very happy with the display quality. When first hooked up, it's very bright and the image is very washed out. When I use the Apple calibrate utility, I can make the display quality good, but on the first step of the utility, it says to make the oval just barely visible, but the adjustments do not change the intensity of the oval. The other calibration settings do change the display and make it better, but still not as nice as it looks when connected to my Windows PC.
On my old display, LG 17" (not widescreen, 1780U), when I would use the Apple calibration utility, the oval intensity would change with adjustments. Overall, the LG has a better display quality, but it's small and the fonts are a little more fuzzy than the new widescreen Dell.
Both LCD monitors were (are) connected using DVI, not VGA. Does anyone know what is happening?
Thanks for any help.

Those first steps outlined in Apple's calibration procedure are generic and cannot be trusted to apply equally to all monitors. For example, it says to set contrast to its highest setting on the monitor, but that's not always the case that that would be the correct setting for a given monitor. I believe your Dell is recommended to default at a contrast setting of 75. So I would use that instead. Or maybe experiment and try different settings around 75, either plus or minus, and see if that helps.
I think it's more important to try and get the left and right halves of the square containing the oval to be as indistinguishable from one another as possible, more so than trying to get the oval to disappear, which I couldn't get my monitor to do either, for what it's worth. Good luck.

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