Delta download of org model

hi experts,
we have done the initial download of org model from ECC 5.0 to CRM 5.0.
now we need to understand that is there a delta download available on the org model. if we do any changes in org model in either of the systems will it automatically get reflected into other system?
any specific settings/ configurations to be done to enable org model delta download?
please let us know your views at the earliest.
thanks in advance
RH

This subject is a bit obscure. At least in CRM 4.0 the organizational unit upload (spro activity) worked very poorly, and I had to manually correct a lot of units.
Now that I thought about it better, the ALE distribution only works corretly between CRM landscape levels, not ECC and CRM since sales organizations are not necessaritly Org Units in ECC HR.
The conclusion is ....no delta available I believe.

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