Delta extraction to non-SAP system

Hi,
I was told that BW standard solution does not allow delta extraction of master data and this problem could increase volume of development.
Can anybody tell me if it's true? What will happen if I extract master data to non-SAP system in full mode? Is there any performance problem due to volume?
Thanks in advance
Ella

Hi Ella,
The reason for making almost all master data loading as "Full Update" is because of the less volume of data when compared to the volume of the transaction data.
Master data loading normally normally doesnt take much time when compared to transaction data loading.
So, the effort needed to do delta setup for master data loading is unnecessary.
That's the reason to go for a full upload for master data load.
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Thanks,
Raj

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