Delta failure in bw side

we load the master data from the source system to bw and it successfully updated but fetching 0 data. but in R/3 side in rsa3 it is showing approx. 9000 records in datasource. I m looking for help immediately.

Hi
Check the extraction mode of IP. Whether it is delta or full.
IF it is delta then it will pick only changed or new records. May there are no changes to your master data since your last delta run.
check the extraction mode in Processing tab of IP
Regards,
Venkatesh

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Hi bw guys,
   This is vasu mailing a Question to of all my forum friends regarding delta failure.
   This is an urgent and send me the answers to me.
   when the data is coming from some tables we kept it as an Time stamp for Generic delta and it is going to ODs to ODS when the delta fails from this ods to ods what is the procedure we can do.
I am expecting the solution from you so fast.

Hi,
Till first ODS data is loaded or not, what is error it seems.
Check the selections and Initializations for second ODS.
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hi
how can we find out the deltas in r/3 side?

u mean seeing delta records..
tcode rsa7..
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if you are deleting the delta , the Init in the BW side will also be deleted.
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Hi All
We appear to have a major problem.
Yesterday the invoice delta from DSO to Cube failed. My colleage traced the problem to invalid characters in the PSA. However it had loaded successfully into the DSO (I dont know why cos it usually fails into DSO if invalid chars are present).
So we deleted that request from the DSO (even though it was green), fixed the invalid chars in PSA and then manually updated from PSA to DSO. Fine all went well so far.
Then we ran the delta load from DSO (datamart) for cube but this came back with error saying 'Previous delta has not finished so cannot proceed' All monitors were RED status but still no good. So we left it thinking that todays process chain run would fix it.
But it didnt. The error today is 'Delta update for ZINV_CUBE is invalidated. Message no. RSBM113'
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Hi,
Hope so the requests for today and yesterday is there in PSA....
Now change the RED status of the failed requests in DSO and cube manually to RED i.e QM status...here only u have faced the issue that previous delta was not yet finished...
U can chk in SM12 for any locks present....
Now u can delete the requests in cube(this will delete the data mart status from ODS) followed by DSO...
Now first u load the data to the ODS manually, activate the ODS and then uplaod it to cube manually thru additional function->update data to targets->Delta update and continue...this'll load the complete data for the two days...
No need to perform INIT if the data is presetn in PSA....
rgds,
Edited by: Krishna Rao on May 21, 2009 6:10 PM

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Hi Experts,
I have a doubt here on infospokes.
1] Is there any possibility to recover delta if it fails in Infospoke Extraction.? if Yes then please tell me how to recover for the infospoke. I know this is different compared to the data load delta. But this is the first time that I'm working on the Infospokes. So Please guide me on this.
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Hi SDN Experts,
Can anyone tell me the solutions for this ...
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I appricate your thoughts on this..
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Bulli

Delta failure

HI all,
When Delta load occures from DSO to CUBE load was failed.In this issue we need to make the request to Red and delete the request from the cube. Then need to delete the Datamart status in the DSO.
My Question is, why we need to make the request red and delete first and then go for Datamart Staus.What happen if we do viceversa.
Can any one give suitable answer.
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Bunny

Hi Pranav,
The reason why we turn the bad request red and then delete the request prior to the deletion of data mart is as follows:
1) If we turn the request red then we are sending the message to the source system that the last delta was not correct and the records need to be extracted again.
2) The delta queue keeps the last delta records only till the next delta run goes green.
If we don't turn the request red and in case of a green request being deleted accidentally or due to some other reason, then we stand a chance of data loss from the source system. Hence as a precaution we always turn a request that needs to be re extracted to red and then delete the request.
We cannot delete the data mart status if the request still exists in the data target(s). The system will not allow you to delete the data mart directly, it will say data already exists in the target(s).
Hope this clarifies your doubts related to deltas.
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C0-PA Delta failure

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Hi,
When you have keyfigures on the cube , based on which if you are doing calculations during run time, If one of the key figure value is "0" and it's calculation leads to infinite, then you will find this arthimatical errors during the loadings.
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Hi,
what is the use of delta in BW side when we are already using delta in R/3 side?
Like,
Generic extraction:-
with different delta extractions (Time stamp, Calendar day, Numeric pointer).
Lo-Cockpit extraction with change log method.
Co/Pa extraction with time stamp method.
So from this delta activation first time full data will be loaded and after that only changed data will be loaded because of these deltas in R/3 side.
So now my question is what is the exact use of delta in BW side with ODS/DSO because data already reached to BW with delta activation right.
Can you please explain me what is the exact use of BW delta?
Thanks in advance.
Points to be added.
Regards,
Shyam.

The purpose of Delta Queue is same in R/3 and BW.
In BW, Delta Queue is used to capture changes made to objects within BW. (for Eg: BW Statastics)or Update data from one BW system to another BW system (if you have multiple BW systems).
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Praveen Vujjini

Init with out data transfer and DELTAS

Dear Gurus,
I created Generic data source using Function module on FAGLFLEXT table. Here i used TimeStamp for capturing DELTAS. In the first run while loading into PSA i selected INIT WITH DATA TRANSFER then it got failed. Again i deleted INIT Request in Schedular and RUN INIT WITH OUT DATA TRANSFER then it got Sucess. Again i run Delta then it also it got failed. Again i deleted the INIT Request and out FULL LOAD. IT got success. May i know why MY Deltas are getting Failed.even in R/3 side when i checked in RSA7 then in status column and in Current Status Tab it showing time stamp field like this . . : :.
I got Stuck up I dont know what to do............
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Sony

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GI quantity Delta issue with 2LIS_02_SCL

Hi Friends !
We are facing delta issue in the BI Prod. Hence to look into the issue, performed few steps in Test environment to check whether delta is performing or not. Mentioned below are the steps which are carried :
1. BW Setup
a. Deletion of queues for Purchasing data in ECC
b. Data collection of purchasing documents for March 1 u2013 March 31 in ECC
c. Deletion of source system initialization in BW
d. Loaded collected data into SAP as delta initialization
Result - OK
2. ECC data entry
a. Created PO #5052422, intracompany STO from DDP1 to USC1
i. 1 line item (qty 5) with two schedule lines (qty 2 & 3)
3. First delta run
a. BW brings over 2 schedule lines for PO #5052422
Result - OK
4. ECC data entry
a. Created PO #5052423, intercompany from DDP1 (USC1) to IRP3 (BV11)
i. 1 line item (qty 5) with two schedule lines (qty 2 & 3)
5. Second delta run
a. BW brings over 2 schedule lines for PO #5052423
Result - OK
6. ECC data entry
a. Posted partial delivery for schedule line 1 of PO #5052422 with a quantity of 1
7. Third delta run
a. no records brought over (change to GI quantity should trigger delta)
Result - FAIL
8. ECC data entry
a. Posted partial delivery for remainder of schedule line 1 of PO #5052422 with and a partial delivery for schedule line 2 with a quantity of 1
9. Fourth delta run
a. no records brought over (change to GI quantity should trigger delta)
Result - FAIL
10. ECC data entry
a. Modified delivery date of both schedule lines of PO #5052422
11. Fifth delta run
a. Both schedule lines of PO #5052422 brought over with updated delivery dates and goods issue quantities
Result - OK
12. ECC data entry
a. Modified delivery date of both schedule lines of PO #5052423
13. Fifth delta run
a. Both schedule lines of PO #5052423 brought over with updated delivery dates
Result - OK
Ques :
1) When modified, GI quantity is not triggering delta. Please advise.
2) 2LIS_02_SCL extractor is build on which delta field.
3) How delta works & behaves with 2LIS_02_SCL extractor?
With Regards
Rekha

Good afternoon Rehka,
I believe that it is correct that the GL change you mention will not trigger a delta on the BW side. This functionality appears to be missing.
If you check in LBWE you will see that the EVENTS for 02: Purchasing -> MC02M_0SCL include the following:
MA: Purchase order
MB: Goods receipt
MC: Invoice receipt
MD: Scheduling agreement
The event associated with a Goods Issue is ML and not included in the list of events for this structure. This is the standard behavior.
I checked and I was unable to find a datastructure that does handle event ML. From what I see the only way to do this is through a custom datasource.
Kind Regards,
Des

Info on Delta Queues

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We have recently activated PM, MM & QM related Business contents and started taking the data in BW. We have following questions / doubts on RSA7 screen.
1. After executing the delta job in R/3, we can see the records in RSA7. There is one column 'Total' against each datasource.
--->Our question is when this column gets updated. Because we are unable to find the count what it is showing.
2. After uploading the delta succesfully in BW, when we return back to RSA7 screen, delta queue becomes empty. i.e when we select a datasource and click on 'Display data entries' button, we gets a message 'List contains no data'.
---> Our assumption is that delta queue becomes empty immediately after loading the delta into BW. But whatif the delta fails at BW side by some reasons ?
Please give your valuable inputs.
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Hi,
1. this number is reflecting the number of LUWs (logical units of work) in your delta queue. if you go to SMQ1 you'll see for instance InboundQueue MCEX03 (MM) with a number. These are the numbers of LUW successfully (could be number of documents or not since a LUW may commit several docs) recorded for your datasource.
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In RSA7, you'll still see a number of LUWs <> 0 because there is still data in the repeat which you can display in RSA7. If you fire a second delta form BW right after the previous and there has been no update in between you shall get 0 records and the number is 0 in RSA7.
A delta gets repeated when you set your delta request status to RED in the monitor in SAP BW. When you'll request the next delta, the system will prompt you if you want to repeat it. If you gave this situation while executing a process chain the system will do it in silent mode if the request is NOT posted in ANY target; if a target still has the request, it won't request it since the system needs clarification from the user.
This is the plugin mechanism used in order to ensure integrity and system communications and I have to admit that's quite clever and reliable...
hope this helps
Olivier

What is a queued delta?

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I like to know what is a queued delta and whe we use this?
What is a data dictionary can you explain me in detail?
Thank you,
York

Hi Les,
Queued Delta:
In case of Queued delta LUW's are posted to Extractor Queue (LBWQ), by scheduling the V3 job we move the documents from Extractor queue to Delta Queue(i.e. RSA7) and we extract the LUW's from Delta Queue to BW side by running Delta Loads. Generally we prefer Queued Delta as it maintain the Extractor Log which us to handle the LUW's which are missed.
Direct Delta:
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https://websmp102.sap-ag.de/~sapdownload/011000358700007535452002E/HOWTOCREATEGENERICDELTA.PDF (need id)
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw33/helpdata/en/3f/548c9ec754ee4d90188a4f108e0121/frameset.htm
Business Intelligence Performance Tuning [original link is broken]
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/cccad390-0201-0010-5093-fd9ec8157802
How to load data
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/23/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-two-v3-update-when-some-problems-can-occur
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/19/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-three-the-new-update-methods
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How to do delta loading in BI?

Hai..
I sheduled the one job in the LBWE transaction. I deleted the contents of setup table and again filled the same and checked the data source in RSA3 and found data there. Then I replicated the data source in BI 7.0. After this thing How to perform delta loading in BI side.
As here we are using Infopackage for loading PSA alone.
1. <b>Where we do delta initialisation and delta load?</b>
2. <b>how the data is getting loaded in R/3 while doing delta update?</b>

Hi Methew,
After triggering V3 job from LBWE , go to Tcode RSA7 in r/3
You will find for your datasource some data packet are available in delta Queue.
Now you have to create a infopackage in BW for init
1)Go to left top of the infopackage click on Initialization of source system ( there should be no request) if you find any request delete it.
2)Click on update tab and select Initialization delta process.
3)Data selection would be in gray ( no selection)
4)Process can be any .
5)Select your data target.
6)Click on start button from schedule tab.
Once int is done create a new info package for delta .
1)Click on update tab and select delta updtes.
Hope this helps.
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