Delta Infopackage

Dear Experts,
Could you please tell me the difference between init and delta infopackage.
shall there be two infopackage ie one for init and one for delta.
What i understood is initil when we run the init .then the next time we will get delta infopackge.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Shall this be done in the same infopackge or we need create init in one and create new for delta.
Please explain in detail.
What do u means my initialisation and if i delete the init what will happen.
Thanks,
Saveen Kumar

Hi Saveen Kumar:
To get a full explanation on this topic, please refer to the paper by Aakash Deep Arora / Nikhil Santosh Saxena.
"Setting up Delta Process for LO Extractors for First Time Using Queued Delta"
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/d019f683-eac1-2b10-40a6-cfe48796a4ca?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true
Regards,
Francisco Milán.

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Follow this document. It will show you where you have missed out..
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
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You may also refer the below sap help documentation for the same.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/1a65dce07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/content.htm
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FLOW -
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I need your help.
I am trying to extract data from SAP R/3 to BI system.
The R/3 system contains data from 1999-2008 fiscal year. I extracted data for fiscal yr 2007,2006 and 2005 successfully and created a delta info package
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Init. select. for field name currently running in request REQU_464F7XQP5TZIEJPIS0MUV32IB
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Diagnosis
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Hello guys,
I tried to delete the delta request by right clicking on the infopack and hitting manage, and then selecting the particular request and hitting delete.
But when I tried to create a new infopack and initialize it it constantly gave me the same error saying that I need to delete the previous request.
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Since you are using an AP (A/c Payable) extractor, it is FI related & do as one of the fellow users has suggested.
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Salini S wrote:
In the first time, Initialization with data transfer is taking the records correctly. But when I run Daemon for taking delta records, its taking all the records again, i.e. both the previously uploaded historical data and the delta records). .
If I understand you correctly you Initially did a full load. Yes? Well next you need to do intialise & after that delta.
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If you will select delta initialisation & initialisation with data transfer- It means delta queue is initialised & it will pick records in the same load.
As you know your targets will receive the changed records from the delta queue.
Salini S wrote:
Also after the first delta run, the request status in the Daemon monitor, for both Infopackage and DTP changes to red and Daemon stops automatically.
I take it the infopackage has run successfully? Did you check? If it has and the error is on the DTP then i suggest the following.
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it to the target that you have already defined in the data transfer process. Once the data records have been successfully updated, they are deleted from the error stack. If there are any erroneous data records, they are written to the error stack again in a new error DTP request.
As I'm sure you know when a DTP request is deleted, the corresponding data records are also deleted from the error stack.
I hope the above helps you.

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As part of EHP4 upgrade on the R/3 side we need to drain the delta queue in R/3.
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I triggered the delta infopackages for 0fi_gl_4, 0fi_gl_6, 0fi_aa_12, 0fi_ar_4 for 5 iterations.
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Can anyone please clarify why it fetched same no of records each time .
2. Against these data sources in RSA7, the count is not becoming '0'. As I remember it is showing 2 or 3 even after each iteration.
Please explain why these data sources are not showing '0' even after a couple of iteratioins.
Note: Postings are blocked at this time.
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Hi,
Regarding 1, I think in system settings are done for FI datasources where it will fetch data from system time 2:00 am for each delta. This way same records are fetched again and again for whole day. You can confirm this by looking at your data in PSA.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/41/4b73415fb9157de10000000a155106/content.htm
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