Delta issues in Variant Classification Datasource

Hi All,
I have created the datasource 1CL_OLIS001 for Sales Order variant characteristics through CTBW and linked it to 2LIS_11_VAITM.. It works fine with full or intial load. but doesnt collect deltas. Cant see any LUWs collected in RSA7 for it nor infopackage in BW Extract any deltas.
Am I missing something here or is it a know issue.
I am on ECC 6.0 and BI 7.0.
Promise to award point to all useful answers.
Thanks
Phil

Dear Amit ,
Which Datasource are you using .. ..
Check in the base table whether the new entries are there..because as you know delta only flows when there are new entries or changed entries ,some extractors can pick delta on a calender day also..so probably u might get some data if you extract tomorrow..
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
Krish

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