Delta Queue no data

Hi guys,
i'm extracting from vahdr and though i can see commit column
numbers increase for direct delta there is no delta data to be displayed and no records extracted to BW, it was the same for unserialized v3 too.
The v1 and V2's were successfully executed in sm13
Thanks,
your help will be greatly appreciated

The question was already raised in your previous thread.
No data in Delta queue
Please dont open new threads for same questions.
Regards,
Jagpreet.
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