Demand (not consumption) based Forecasting

Hi SDNers,
In 4.7 standard SAP without APO, we have consumption based forecasting. We need forecasting to be DEmand based so it forcasts based on sales orders, both open and closed.
How is this possible to setup please?
Your help is greatly appreciated.

Hi DB49,
Yes you are correct: I am talking about the key figures from which your forecast is derived. We do "not" want to use the past issues (consumption) as a key figure, and "do" need to use demand/requirements (Sales orders, both open and closed) as a key figure.
Apologies for my not clearly defining the issue earlier. I was alwalys told SAP standard forecasting used only consumption to derive the forecast - really hope this is not true as we must now use actual sales orders to derive the forecast numbers. Unfortuntly, I do not know how to accomplish this change.
We do not use S&OP: currently run Forecast (RMPROG00) then Copy Forecast (RM60FORC) monthly, which passes to Independant requirements, which is then planned by MPS and finally MRP. We run MPS and MRP on different days by plant.
Most of our materials are MRP Types M0, M1, PD, using MRP Group 0040, with many different Lot size groupings. For the most part, we do not use Strategy Groups.
We forecast at the parent and component levels, mostly at the parent level.
Hope this helps - please let me know if you need any more info or if I did not clearly state our processes.
Thanks again for your help!! Really appreciate your time and knowledge sharing.
Paul

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Consumption based planning and Scheduling agreement are two different functions.
Consumption-based planning is based on past consumption values and uses the forecast or other statistical procedures to determine future requirements. The procedures in consumption-based planning do not refer to the master production schedule. That is, the net requirements calculation is not triggered either by planned independent requirements or dependent requirement. Instead, it is triggered when stock levels fall below a predefined reorder point or by forecast requirements calculated using past consumption values.
A form of outline purchase agreement under which materials are procured on predetermined dates within a certain time period.
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The schedule lines in the system have internal character. This means that you can change them in any way you wish. The schedule lines stored in the system are not transmitted to the vendor until you explicitly create a scheduling agreement release (which may take one of two forms: a forecast delivery schedule or a JIT delivery schedule).
The release documentation allows you to display the releases transmitted to a vendor over a certain period in order to establish exactly when you transmitted which information to the vendor.
Without release documentation (in the standard system, document type LP)
The schedule lines immediately have official character, i.e. they are immediately transmitted to the vendor the moment you save them (transmission time-spot 4 for messages). There is no release documentation in this case.
It cannot be explained in few lines. You need to study the below link.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/75/ee1fa755c811d189900000e8322d00/frameset.htm
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I need to configure the CBP based on Past consuption data of 3 months and also it should give me future forecast values for 3 months. also I want to use safety stock and Reorder level.
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Also pl.guide me on What will happen if there is sedden rise in the requirement is any month?
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Hi,
MRP supports and helps the MRP controller in the task areas. These tasks include
determining type, quantity and time of the requirement, and scheduling corresponding
procurement elements. The automatic planning run for MRP determines shortage situations and generates the corresponding procurement elements. Possible
procurement elements of MRP are planned orders, purchase requisitions and
scheduling agreement schedule lines. The planned order and purchase requisition are
internal planning elements that can be changed, rescheduled or deleted at almost
any time.
In in-house production, the system creates planned orders for planning production
quantities. When planning has finished, the system converts the planned orders into
production orders. The system then converts the dependent requirements in the
planned order into reservations in the production order.
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requisition for direct planning of external procurement quantities. Whether purchase
requisitions are created for direct planning, or planned orders are created first, you
can use the creation indicator for purchase requisitions/MRP groups in the material
master record on the initial screen of the planning run. When planning has finished,
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converted to a purchase order. The advantage of creating a planned order first is
the additional procurement proposal check that is executed by the MRP controllers.
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exists in the plant is considered in planning. However, the stocks of individual storage
locations can be excluded from MRP or planned independently. These stocks are then
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for individual MRP areas. You can define the MRP areas yourself. This means
that several storage locations can be grouped together for one MRP area and that
requirements planning can be executed separately from the plant for these MRP areas.
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(MRP areas include the function of storage locations that are planned separately for
materials requirements.)
Planning Levels for Materials Planning is either
1. The Plant with Storage locations planned separately.
2. MRP areas
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There are three different types of MRP areas:
1. Plant MRP areas (obligatory) that are automatically created by activating
planning with MRP areas. Their numbers match the number of the plant. If no
more MRP areas are defined, the plant MRP area covers the entire plant.
2. Storage location MRP areas that are defined by the storage locations assigned
to them.
3. Subcontractor MRP areas that provide planning of the requirement of the
material provided for a subcontractor and are defined by the assignment of
this subcontractor.
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T-code - OMDU
The plant parameters for the corresponding plant must be activated in
Customizing for Materials Management under Consumption-Based Planning u2192
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we have some materials those we only need for 3 month. After 3 months we change the materials.
We often purchase the material each 2 days and the delivery time is also short 1 till 2 days.
I don't know exactly which kind of consumption based planing we can use.( manual reorder point planing, automatic RPP or Forecast-based planning).
we would like to automatise the process but the problem is with the assortment change after 3 months we will not have a consumption material a the begining with the new material.
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we have a issue in consumption of forecast by sales order for a configurable material.
Please find the below details for the settings maintained and the steps followed.
Please let me know how we can overcome this issue.
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SAP online help:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/1a/8b4bbecdd74536acd4e970faaf6e2d/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/3b/66596bda7b11d1b6330000e8a738dc/frameset.htm
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hi
Can some body explain me about the configuration setting in consumption based planning for manufacturing company ??
FOr manufacturing industry, they have production , and plant maintaienance, and depot plant.
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I am working on a presentation for a client in order to help them to decide which SAP Planning Tool should be implemented.
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