Dependent Demand Planning of commponents

Hi
Following is the BOM structure -
F (Finished Good) -
> S1 (1st Intermediate) -
> S2 (2st Intermediate) -
> R (Raw Material)
I am trying to plan the finished good (F) in an external system (like say xLPO / ECC) and transfer the dependent demand of the S1 thus created to APO and plan the balance materials S1, S2 and R in APO. Can this be done. I have tried it but it does not seem to work.
Dependent demand of S1 is net getting transferred.
Regards
Deepak Joshi

How have you tried to plan for S1 in APO? Moreover standard APO design says F to be planned in APO. If F is planned in APO then S1 / S2 and R are NOT to be planned in APO as you plan for Header product (and the important components) in APO not the other way round.
Having said that you can get demand of S1 from the external system (not ECC) to APO BW and load that data in Demand keyfigure. If you are using Planning with BOM (DP-BOM functionality) then assig this keyfigure suitably to the dependent demand keyfigure.
Otherwise this demand of S1 when released to SNP/PPDS should explode to S2 dependent requirements based on the SNP or PPDS PDS.
Hope this helps,
somnath

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