Depreciation, delta areas and revaluation
Hello wise people - I have a query for you:
In our leading ledger, buildings are set to depreciate and we do not report unrealised gains or losses, so revaluations do not post to the leading ledger. Revaluation only is meant to post to the non-leading ledgers. However, since buildings do not depreciate in the non-leading ledgers, the depreciation areas for the non-leading ledgers post the revaluation, and the delta depreciation areas reverse the posting, for a net effect of 0. In the other ledgers buildings do not depreciate.
We have attempted to set the indicators for revaluation of acquisition and production costs in the non-leading ledger depreciation areas and leave this indicator de-selected in the delta depreciation areas, but then our depreciation runs do not work. We have searched OSS and found nothing, yet this appears to be a program error in the depreciation run, as revaluation should post as APC and not depreciation.
The configuration is set as follows:
In transaction OABW we have the following depreciation areas, configured with regards revaluation of APC and Depn as follows:
01 Book depreciation no settings
02 Local Depreciation Reval APC & Reval Depn
03 Local Delta Depreciation Area Reval APC
04 Local Depreciation L2 Reval APC & Reval Depn
05 Local Delta Depreciation L2 Reval APC
15 Tax Reval APC & Reval Depn
16 Tax Delta Reval APC
32 Book depreciation in parallel currency no settings
42 Book depreciation in group currency no settings
In transaction OABN all of the above are configured (checked) for ordinary depreciation.
The posting to the GL occurs using the following configuration (from Asset Accounting - lean implementation --> Organiastional Structures --> Depreciation Areas --> Define how depreciation areas post to the general ledger --> :
1 Book depreciation Real Depn Area Realtime GL Leading Ledger
2 Local Depreciation Real Depn Area Depreciation Only Local GAAP Ledger
3 Local Delta Depreciation Area -nothing specified- Only APC Directly Local GAAP Ledger
4 Local Depreciation L2 Real Depn Area Depreciation Only Local Consolidation Ledger
5 Local Delta Depreciation L2 -nothing specified- Only APC Directly Local Consolidation Ledger
15 Tax Real Depn Area Depreciation Only Local Tax Ledger
16 Tax Delta -nothing specified- Only APC Directly Local Tax Ledger
32 Book depreciation in parallel currency Real Depn Area Area does not post nothing specified
42 Book depreciation in group currency Real Depn Area Area does not post nothing specified
We have an asset class for buildings and wish to revalue specific assets using transaction ABAW. We will process upward and downward revaluations.
Any ideas? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
My best
Rodney
Hi Nagarjuna,
You can maintain different GL accounts in AO90.
COD --> COA --> Account Determination --> Depreciation --> Depreciation Area --> Account assignment on Revaluation on Deprecition.
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
Deepanshu
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