Depreciation of Group Assets

Hi,
I have configured the Group Assets.
For Asset migration data I have created a Legacy Group Asset through AS81 and also assign that to the Legacy Assets which I created through the AS91.
Now system is showing me the book depreciattion accurately but when I execute the report through Dep Area 15 system is showing me the group asset & their only uploaded balances such as Acquicition & Accu.
But system not showing me Depreciation as per the IT and also not showing me as per the book assetwise.
Kindly put some light on this on priority basis how to overcome this & provide the way/solution ASAP.
Thanks & Regards
Sandeep

Hi,
Have you checked your settings in OAYM?
Play around by selecting and deselecting in your sand box.
Thanks,
Srinu

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Calculation of Depreciation for Group Asset

Hi Experts,
I am getting a problem while doing depreciation for group asset
Ex: 80,000; Rate 10%
total depreiaiton p.a is Rs 8000/-
as per the Indian standards if it is below 180 days it should take Rs 4000/-, but in my system it is showing Rs 3333.33
my depreciation start date & capitlization date is 01.11.2007.
Regards,
Satya Vani.

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
Edited by: pankaj_ab on Feb 3, 2010 8:26 AM

MANUAL DEPRECIATION FOR GROUP ASSET

dear sap gurus
i want to post manual depreciaiton to an asset which is attached to a group asset
could anyone tell the ways to do it please
regards
srini

Hi
Please check Transaction Code: OAYM - Specify Depreciation Areas for Group Assets
Thanks and Regards
P.V.S.R.Gupta

How to accout unplanned depreciation for group assets

Friends,
Unplanned depreciation is accounted for group assets few years ago.This is for special depreciation areas.
Now i would like to reverse this amount as write up unpalnned depreciation, but system is throwing eror message that: This function is not possible for group assets.
OR
The issue what we are facing is special dep areas has one cent as -ve acquisition due to which we are unable to deactivate the asset. This one cent was accounted as unplanned dep few years ago. How do we make the APC as zero when it has -ve APC in special dep areas.
pl, suggest how to go about this.
Thank
NNS

Hi,
This is not possible in the standard and this is not a from SAP intended and provided solution. Therefore I ask you to be really careful and test it bevore on a test system. (and perhaps to discuss this with your SAP consultant)
The workaround to remove the group asset from table ANLB-ANLGR from the asset could be done by creating your own program.
Regards Bernhard

How to correct the derived depreciation area balances (Group Assets)

Hi SAP Gurus....
Due to some wrong configurations for one derived depreciation area (Group Assets) values have not updated in that derived depreciation area and related group assets. Now how to update the same APC values in derived depreciation area and Group Assets from already posted APC values in real depreciation areas.
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Depreciation of individual assets.

Hello Experts,
I have a doubt regarding Asset Depre.
If part of asset is sold depreciatin has to be calculated. however, depre is calculated on the block of assets and not on individual asset. So how to address to that? Whats the t-code for that?
Thanks,
sdn.
Moderator: Please, read basic SAP material on depreciation - help.sap.com

Hi,
SAP calculates depreciation for individual assets always. (For some countries like India a group asset feature is available and used which in addition calculates the depreciation for group assets.)
In case of sale transaction, you can post the partial retirement and the system will automatically calculate the gain/ loss based on the period control assigned to the depreciation key for the asset retirement scenario.
Regards,
Gaurav

Link-Group Asset Class, Depreciation Area & Depreciation Key

Dear Experts,
I am new to FI-AA Customization & have a basic query about Group Asset Concept.
I am working on Ecc 6.0 & for Country India.
I want to create Group Asset for calculation of Depreciation as per Income Tax Act. Hence there is just one Depreciation Area (for Group Assets) , but the Depreciation keys are different. E.d IN1, IN2 etc. (Country Version India)
Now the questions are :
1) Do we need to create different Asset Class for different Group Assets or to create just 1 Asset Class for all Group Assets.
E.g. I want to calculate Depreciation As per income Tax Act on Gross Block of Building, Furniture & Fixture, Motor Car, Vehicles etc. So I need to create separate Group Asset Class for each one of above or just to create one Group Asset Class.
2) If we need to create just one Asset Class for all Group Assets; how to maintain a Depreciation Key in OAYZ as there are more than 1 Depreciation Keys?
3) is there any other method / functionality to calculate Depreciation as per income Tax Act or Group Asset is the only functionality?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
Edited by: pankaj_ab on Feb 3, 2010 8:26 AM

India Tax Depreciation (group asset)

Hi FICO experts,
    I'm having some problem with depreciation calculation for group assets to adhere to India IT Tax Depreciation regulation. As per IT law,
1. asset acquired <180days shall be depreciated at 1/2 of the depreciation rate for the fiscal year
2. asset acquired >180days shall be depreciated at full rate for the fiscal year
    I've created depreciation key with period control NL and IT, and configure 2 depreciaiton area i.e 01 for book and 02 for tax depreciation in India COD. 02-Tax depreciation is configured as managed at Group asset.
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1. Asset A - Acquired on P1 of 2008 --> INR10000
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     When I view Group Asset depreciation, I noticed that the deprecition for 2008 computed as (1000015%)+(1000015%). Thus, although Asset B is still being depreciated at full rate of 15% instead of half of the rate.
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rgds
WJ

Hi,
If you want to adhere Indian IT laws then follow the below mentioned steps:
1. Maintain a relationship of 1:1 of AS01 & AS21, means when you create a new normal asset it should be tagged with a new group asset.
2. Try to use SAP standard delivered dep. keys.
3. Change asset value date determination in SPRO.
4. Tagged group asset into the normal asset master.
5. Check tax dep.figures under group asset.
Regards
Anuj Agarwal

Issue on migration of tax depreciation balances for group assets

Dear Experts,
My client is using group assets for tax depreciation report India.
The SAP implementation was done in 2006 during the data migration the
client was not clear of the values both individual asset wise and
group asset wise to migrate to tax depreciation area. So the tax
depreciation for some of the assets are migrated with some
(non caluclated) value.
Now the client want to see the tax depreciation group asset wise or if
possible individual asset wise.For this the group asset need to be
created and assigned to each individual asset in the asset master
record.
The fiscal year variant is v3, april to march with 4 quaters June,
Sep, Dec, Mar.
Now when the data migration for the current year come into picture
I can use AS81/AS82 for loading current year opening balance and
accumulated depreciation for all the group of assets as a whole. Or
I can use AS91/AS92 to load balances into tax depreciation of
each asset individually. But I am not sure whether this is correct.
And also what to do with the previous years balances. I am very
confused. Somebody suggest good solution.
When I create a legacy asset or group asset in AS91 and AS81
respectively the fields in the Takeover values screen are grayed
out and do not allow mw to input values. But I am able to enter
values by clicking the button Transactions in the Takeover values
screen and able to enter a value date , transacton type and amount
for tax depreciation area. Here again I am not convinced using 100
transaction type for current year opening balance. I used
transaction type 652(Unplanned tax depreciation on current year
acquisition) for accumulated current year dpereciation upto second
quarter septemeber 2008.
In asset explorer under "Planned values" tab the opening balance
must be visible under Fiscal year start column but it is displayed
under change column as I entered values for tax depreciation area
in AS81 in Transaction screen with asset value date as 01.04.2008
transaction type 100 and amount as xxxxxx and value date 30.09.2008
652 xxxxxxxx.
Need expert guidance on this
Rgds
Komal

Dear Experts,
Your inputs are awaited.
Rgds
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Config of Group assets - Tax Depreciation Calculation : India

Dear Seniors,
can you please explain the configuration of the Group assets and how exactly the tax depreciation calculation in India happens for the individual assets with scheme of entries.
Thanks and Regards
Sathish

Hi,
In India, depreciation on assets for the purpose of computation of net income as per the Income Tax (IT) Act 1961 is calculated over a block of assets instead of individual assets as allowed under the Companies Act 1956. Asset acquisitions and retirements are managed over the block level. The IT Act prescribes certain rates of depreciation to be used under the Written down Value (WDV) method over these asset blocks to compute depreciation.
The following are the customization settings that may be followed in the R/3 system in order to manage your assets in the income tax depreciation area.
1. Copy the standard chart of depreciation 0IN as provided by SAP and create your own chart of depreciation.
2. Use the depreciation area 15 for the purpose of management of assets under the IT Act. Make it statistical in nature. (Reference Transaction Code: OADB). Do not check the box negative net book value.
3. Specify that the Income Tax depreciation area takes over the APC from the book but not make it identical (Reference Transaction Code: OABC).
4. Create an asset class for the purpose of income tax blocks. This asset class will be used to create only group assets. (Reference Transaction Code: OAOA)
5. Specify that the depreciation area for income tax can be managed only for group assets. (Reference Transaction Code: OAYM). This would mean that depreciation for this depreciation area would be computed only at group asset level.
6. Specify that the asset class defined in (b) above will be used for creating group assets only. (Reference Transaction Code: OAAX)
7. Two period control methods (IT and NL) have been defined in the system for determination of start or the end of depreciation calculation at the time of a fixed asset acquisition or retirement. You may use these period control methods while creating the depreciation keys for the purpose of IT depreciation.
Calendar assignments have been made for the above mentioned period control methods in order to reflect valuation requirements as per the Income Tax Act (Transaction Code: OAVH). You may create your own period control methods depending on the fiscal year variant you use. The period control methods supplied are based on the fiscal year variant V3.
8. Depreciation Keys: The following depreciation keys have been created in the system. They correspond to the income tax blocks that are prescribed under Indian tax laws. They are as below:
Depreciation Keys:
1. IN1 - Tax Depreciation - 5% -
I Hope it will give you some basic guidance.
Regards,
Krishna Kishore

Group Assets IT - Depreciation

Hi All,
I am calculating Depreciation on Assets based on Income tax act of India.
Based on this the assets purchased less than 180 days should 50% depreciation charged.
this is running fine when I calculate the depreciation on Individual Assets.
But Client request for Groups Assets, So I assigned the Groups assets.
In case of Groups Assets. Depreciation for the assets less than 180 days also it is calculating the 100 % Dep.
Any one know how to solve this. Is there any settings needs to be change?
Thanks
Ravi

Hi,
In OVAH
settings is maintained like this.
K4     01     Pro rata at period start date              0     0
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              1     15
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              2     14     1
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              3     15     2
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              4     15     3
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              5     15     4
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              6     15     5
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              7     15     6
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              8     15     7
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              9     15     8
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              10     15     9
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              11     15     10
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              12     15     11
in the table details shows like this.
Table:          T090NP
Displayed Fields: 15 of 15 Fixed Columns:                3 List Width 0250
   MANDT AFAPL METPER PERBZU PERBNA PERBAB PERBUM XBZDAT PERBAW PERBIF PERBAA PERBZR PERBD1 PERBD2 PERTXT
   740   0AT    007    04     06     05     05     X                                                04/06/05/05
   740   0BR    007    04     06     05     05     X                                                04/06/05/05
   740   0PL    002    11     11     11     11     X                                                11/11/11/11
   740   0PL    003    01     01     01     01     X                                                01/01/01/01
But any where I have to Assign this steps to Deprecation Key for Groups Assets?
thanks
Ravi

Depreciation of Actual Assets with group Assets

Dear Friends,
I have configured Group Assets scenario and it is working fine for postings but in depreciation I am facing the problem,
Let me tell you clearly.
1. I have created Group Assets - 10000 with depn start date 01042011.
2. I also created actual assets -20000 assigned it to group assets 10000 & Actual assets Depn start date is 01052011.
3. i have done the inward for actual assets.
Now when i look asset explore at group assets level it is calculating depn for actual assets 20000 from 01042011 I mean from Group Assets depn start date.but i want it to calculate depn from actual assets Depn start date(from 01052011).
can any one help to resolve this issue please ?
Thanks,
UmeshGowda.

Dear ummigowda
were you created group asset through AS01 or AS21 (useAS21 only)
in OAYM wereyou selected check box for your tax depreciation area
IN AFAMS you select - validity start (From ordenary start dep.)
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shankar

Error while creating Group Asset

Dear All
While Creating Group Asset I am getting the Following error:
No depreciation area in company code 1000 allows group assets.
Message no. AY160
Diagnosis
You cannot create group assets in company code 1000. There are no depreciation areas that can manage group assets in this company code.
Procedure
Make sure that you really want to create a group asset in company code 1000.
If so, then allow group assets in the desired depreciation areas.
Please advice.
Thanks & Regards
Kanwaljit

Hi,
Check the config in OAYM and OAAX.
Then your issue will get solved.
Thanks,
Srinu

Group Asset Screen Layout disabled fields

Hi All,
We have created asset masters with Book and Tax depreciation, For tax depreciation we are assigning Group asset. Issue is while doing take over value with t- Code AS92, system should propose the field of APC Value and Accumulated Depreciation Value but both the fields are proposing only for Book Depreciation
In case of tax depreciation APC value is editable and Accumulated Dep value is disabled, requirement is we need to enter both the values for tax dep along with group asset assignment.
This is happening only when we are assigning group asset while creation of asset master. if you donu2019t assign group asset to the asset master then system is allowing us to enter both values in both the depreciation area.
I have checked necessary configuration regarding screen layout and not found any solution.
Kindly help in this regard.
Regards,
Sahil K

Hi:
Please check for missing authorization if any in Transaction code ANSICHT. Have you checked group layout in AOLA..
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Assignment of Asset Number to Group Asset

Hi All,
For our client they are using Group Asset for the calculation of Income Tax Depreciation (Depreciation Aea:15), actually he is having two types of Land 1. Free hold land and 2. normal Land. They created total 5 asset through(AS01) like 10000, 10001,10002,10003 and 10004. and a Group asset through (AS21) 110000 and assigned all these assets in one group asset but they want to create two Group assets 1. 10000 & 10001 2. 10002,10003 & 10004 as another Group asset for income tax depreciation purpose. Can somebody give me the suggetion how to create 2 group assets.
Regards,
R.K

Hi Raghavendran,
For the Group Asset they assigned the Depreciation Key:LINK(Straight line from acquisition value to Zero without Interest) for all the assets becuase of that it is calculating depreciation (i.e., Asset Value/No. of years) as we know for Free Hold Land Depreciation won't be calculated. For that we want to created another Group Asset with Depreciation Key: 0000(No depreciation and no interest), i want the procedure of how to create 2 group assets (1. with assets 10000 & 10001 and the other with assets 10002,10003 & 10004).
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