Derivation of wrong commitment item in ML81N

Dear all,
A material document is created in ML81N with expenses a/c Dr. & provision for expenses a/c Cr & the budget is cosumed with debit of the expenses.& also Cr of this provision for expenses.Because the system defaulting the committment item of the expenses which is different from the commitment item attached to the provision for expenses G/L.
I have enhanced the derivation rule in FMDERIVE with checking the business transaction,G/L & commitment item.Then switch on Trace. Then while saving/posting/checking transaction i can see business transaction and other details also.
Even then the same problem is exist.
Now can any one advice me how to proceed further.
Thanks
Shivaji

Hi Shivaji,
Please check the following hints:
1) First of all, we need to be sure that all existent correction notes are implemented in your system. Please check if the following notes are applied in your system (including manual steps):
1289547 FM account assignment incorrect in GR/IR clearing in service
1450965 FM account assignment incorrectly inherited from PO
1480503 FM account assignment for GL line overwritten in MIRO
1502874 Planned Delivery Costs are not updated during GR/IR postings
These notes correct wrong behaviours in include LFMCOBLF06 related to account assignment.
If the notes are not there (and valid to your release/package), please apply all in one test system and retest your issue.
2) Regarding inheriting the FM assignments, material po's can retrieve the FM account assignments from the FM tables. This insures that the current FM account assigments are always used.
However, in the case of Services, it is not possible to use the FM tables as it is not guaranteed that the correct Account assigment will be retrieved. So, the SES table ESKN is used instead. The ESKN record is created at the time the SES is created.
So, the Invoice should inherit from the GR. But, it is not possible to read the FM tables to get the account assignment.
3) Talking about your derivation rules (i believe you checked this already), please enter in the derivation rule -> Definition Tab, double click in the name of your Target Field (bottom part of the screen).
There you will find the fields:
( ) Do not overwrite if Fld Already Filled
( ) Overwrite with new value
( ) Overwrite with new value if new value is not empty.
I believe you should have marked the first option due to your business requirements described in this thread.
4) I believe you have set your derivation rule to derive commitment item with the function module FMDT_READ_MD_ACCOUNT_COMPANY "Read Account Master Data". For additional information, check note
839488.
5) You can also add Conditions to your Derivation step regarding commitment item to not perform the step when (VORGN = 'RMWE' AND KTOSL = 'WRX') OR (VORGN = 'RMRP' AND KTOSL = 'WRX'). To simplify the maintenance of this condition, the Temporary flag could be used instead. You can set this flag in a previous step using the attributes above and then use that in the Condition list.
I hope this helps. If nothing helped, let me know the content of table FM01X in your system and your current release/package.
Best Regards,
Vanessa.

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Hi Aleksey,
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I already set the fin. transaction for GR/IR account 40 and it didn't affect anything.
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