Design breaking in IE?

Is this page breaking in IE? I am on a mac and it is, but I
am wondering
if it is doing the same on a pc? Any browsers anyway?
http://www.agilitygraphics.com/clients/c21/pages/buying.html
Thanks,
Brian

Osgood, sorry, man, I hope this is the last time!
I think I had a reason why I wanted to work with the hack on
this one,
but I changed it now and it seems to work good. Thanks for
laying into
me, I need it. I really appreciate the comments. I hope I
will not ask
this question again....
Thanks a lot!
Brian
wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
>> Is this page breaking in IE? I am on a mac and it
is, but I am
>> wondering if it is doing the same on a pc? Any
browsers anyway?
>>
>>
http://www.agilitygraphics.com/clients/c21/pages/buying.html
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>>
> How many times?
>
> It will only break in Mac IE5x because of the left/right
padding on the
> content <div>. Move the padding onto the
<h1> and <p> tags in the <div>
> and off the <div> and it wont ever happen,
assuming your other
> calculations are correct.
>
> It also means you wont have to keep using the box model
hack to readjust
> the width of every <div> you use with left/right
padding, which only
> complicates the process.
>
> Hummm......ok I can see that despite keep telling you
you're not going
> to take any notice. Just trying to make life much easier
for you.
>
> Its's difficult to change when you feel you've grasp
something but
> you've grasp something which is bad, bad, bad, using
hacks when there is
> no need to.
>

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