Destroying/Re-creating a Failover Cluster - Server 2012

Hi all,
Some background:
We have a 4-node cluster hosting our Hyper-V environment, and for some or other reason we keep having issues where nodes will just become unresponsive, with the logs indicating an issue on the cluster.
Short of destroying the cluster, we've tried everything to resolve this, i.e. remove and re-install Hyper-V and Failover Clustering, checked Windows updates, double-checked the configuration on the hardware, etc.
Now, my question:
If I destroy a cluster through cluster manager, and then re-create it, adding back the CSV storage, will the "new" cluster pick up that there are Hyper-V servers in those CSVs and recover those roles? Is there a way to back up and restore the existing
roles prior to destroying the cluster?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
Sebastian

Hi,
Base on my experience, if you want to remove the cluster you must remove all the cluster resource first, for Hyper-V roles you must export all the vm to the new location then
do the cluster remove action.
The similar thread:
Does the destroy cluster option affect the guests running on the hyper-v hosts?
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/aab6d54c-1220-42fb-b4f6-c0b6b1583730/does-the-destroy-cluster-option-affect-the-guests-running-on-the-hyperv-hosts?forum=winserverhyperv
More information:
Deleting a Cluster resource? Do it the supported way
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2010/01/11/deleting-a-cluster-resource-do-it-the-supported-way.aspx
Remove-Cluster
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh847273.aspx
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    aShared storage2 = 09
    sHome storage3 =   01
    sShared storage4 = 04
    aHome shadow1 =   10
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    sHome shadow3 =   02
    sShared shadow4 = 05
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    Hello Alex,
    Thank you for your reply.  I will go through your questions in order as best I can, though I'm not the backup expert here.
    1) "Did you see any event ID when the VSS fail?
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     I've written down events from both server 1 and 2 in this code block, documenting the first reboot causing the role to move to server 2 and then the second reboot going back to server 1:
    JANUARY 2
    9:34:20 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 1074 - INFO - Source: User 32 - Standard reboot request from explorer.exe (Initiated by me)
    9:34:21 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The Volume Shadow Copy service entered the running state."
    9:34:21 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 60 - ERROR - Source: volsnap - "The description for Event ID 60 from source volsnap cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
    If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
    The following information was included with the event:
    \Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy49
    F:
    T:
    The locale specific resource for the desired message is not present"
    9:34:21 PM - Server 1 - Event ID 60 - ERROR - Source: volsnap - "The description for Event ID 60 from source volsnap cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
    If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
    The following information was included with the event:
    \Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy1
    H:
    V:
    The locale specific resource for the desired message is not present"
    ***The above event repeats with only the number changing, drive letters stay same, citing VolumeShadowCopy# numbers 6, 13, 18, 22, 27, 32, 38, 41, 45, 51,
    9:34:21 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 60 - ERROR - Source: volsnap - "The description for Event ID 60 from source volsnap cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
    If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
    The following information was included with the event:
    \Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy4
    E:
    S:
    The locale specific resource for the desired message is not present"
    ***The above event repeats with only the number changing, drive letters stay same, citing VolumeShadowCopy# numbers 5, 10, 19, 21, 25, 29, 37, 40, 46, 48, 48
    9:34:28 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The NetBackup Legacy Network Service service entered the stopped state."
    9:34:28 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The Volume Shadow Copy service entered the stopped state.""
    9:34:29 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The NetBackup Client Service service entered the stopped state."
    9:34:30 PM - Server 1 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The NetBackup Discovery Framework service entered the stopped state."
    10:44:07 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The Volume Shadow Copy service entered the running state."
    10:44:08 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 7036 - INFO - Source: Service Control Manager - "The Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider service entered the running state."
    10:45:01 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 48 - ERROR - Source: bxois - "Target failed to respond in time to a NOP request."
    10:45:01 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 20 - ERROR - Source: bxois - "Connection to the target was lost. The initiator will attempt to retry the connection."
    10:45:01 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 153 - WARN - Source: disk - "The IO operation at logical block address 0x146d2c580 for Disk 7 was retried."
    10:45:03 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 34 - INFO - Source: bxois - "A connection to the target was lost, but Initiator successfully reconnected to the target. Dump data contains the target name."
    JANUARY 3
    At around 2:30 I reboot Server 2, seeing that shadow copy was missing after previous failure. Here are the relevant events from the flip back to server 1.
    2:30:34 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 60 - ERROR - Source: volsnap - "The description for Event ID 60 from source volsnap cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
    If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
    The following information was included with the event:
    \Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy24
    F:
    T:
    The locale specific resource for the desired message is not present"
    2:30:34 PM - Server 2 - Event ID: 60 - ERROR - Source: volsnap - "The description for Event ID 60 from source volsnap cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
    If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
    The following information was included with the event:
    \Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy23
    E:
    S:
    The locale specific resource for the desired message is not present"
    We are using Symantec NetBackup.  The client agent is installed on both server1 and 2.  We're backing them up based on the complete drive letter for each storage volume (this makes recovery easier).  I believe this is what you would call "software
    based VSS".  We don't have the infrastructure/setup to do hardware based snapshots.  The drives reside on a compellent san mapped to the cluster via iScsi.
    2) "Confirm the following registry is exist:
    - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VSS\Settings"
    The key is there, however the DWORD value is not, would that mean that the
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    Dear All,
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    Hello,
     1.You can run the Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator service (MSDTC) as a clustered resource on a failover cluster server for increased reliability, based on the failover capabilities of the clustered servers. You can
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    Reference:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms189910.aspx#MSDTC
    2. The Cluster Resource Group is where SQL Server failover cluster resource will be placed. Each clustered SQL Server will belong to a Failover
    Cluster Resource Group. For example, if you had configure a two node SQL Server Cluster, each clustered instance on the two node belong to a same Cluster Resource Group.
    You can change the Cluster Resource Group name, but notes the following name is reserved and already used as Resource Group names: Available Storage, Cluster Group.
    3. Each SQL Server cluster is assigned a virtual Network name and IP address, which client applications use to connect to the clustered SQL Server.
    4. Not familiar with SCVMM, SCOM, Orchestrator, but you should install the Database Engine Services and SQL Server Management tools.If you want to use SQL Server Reporting Services, you can install Reporting Servers, but Report Server service cannot participate
    in a failover cluster.
    5. You can use isolated disk for user database and temp DB of each SQL Server Cluster
    6. Yes. You should use Cluster Disks which add to Clustered Shared Volumes to host the data file and log of databases.
    http://www.pythian.com/blog/how-to-install-a-clustered-sql-server-2012-instance-step-by-step-part-1/
    Regards,
    Fanny Liu
    Fanny Liu
    TechNet Community Support

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