Destructive Samples with Handling Units
Dear Experts,
I just wanted to check if there's anyone who has encountered destructive inspection for samples with Handling Units and how this was managed (via enhancements/operational workaround).
Based on SAP KBA 1771624, destructive sampling will not work for HU due to all or nothing approach. We are currently considering the following options but would like to get your insights on this in case there is a better approach for this problem.
1. During Goods Receipt, sample usage quantity will be packed in separate HU from the rest of the quantity. This option will work provided that sample usage quantity is known before quality inspection. e.g. I will recieve 100 pcs of MAT A, 15 pcs for sample usage will be packed under HU1 and the remaining 85 pcs under HU2. UD stock posting will be performed in 2 steps, 1st for GI to sample usage for HU2 and 2nd for transfer to unrestricted/blocked/etc. for HU2
2. Receive full quantity under 1 HU. Complete quality inspection (results recording, ud and stock posting). Unpack the material to be able to perform GI to sample for the quantity that was used for destructive inspection.
Hi Craig/Vignesh,
Thank you for your providing your inputs on this. I will take them into consideration.
I have another option to address this requirement, that is to (1) receive the material into non HU storage location (2) perform UD and stock posting, i.e. GI to sample usage and unrestricted-use/blocked stocks (3) transfer unrestricted-use/blocked stocks to HU managed location.
Do you think this will be more efficient operationally versus the other 2 options above?
I am trying to find the most effective way to address this requirement with minimum impact to Logistics operation. Most of our materials are managed in HU and destructive sampling is regularly done so users will be performing the steps in SAP a lot.
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HANDLING UNITS CONFIGURATION:
The SAP Handling Unit Management system allows you to manage the entire movement of the handling units and the materials they contain rather than tracking each material individually.
This paper is for the HUM Delivery although some of the contents is related to Inventory under the Logistics General modules.
Table of Contents
Objective
IMG Menu The Starting Point
Handling Unit Management Overview
Start of HUM Outbound Deliveries Manual Packing Configuration
Define Number Ranges for Handling Units
Define Packaging Material Types
Define Material Group for Packaging Materials
Define Allowed Packaging Materials
Use Handling Unit Supplements
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Delivery Type Determination
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Define Number Assignment for Each Packaging Material Type
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Start of the Automatic Packaging Configuration
Define Number Ranges for Packing Instructions
Define Determination Type for Packing Instructions
Define Number Ranges for Packing Instruction Determination Records
What else to maintain after the necessary Automatic Packaging Configurations?
Appendix A: How to do Manual Packing for Non-Assigned Handlings Units?
Appendix B: Scenario 1 How to do Manual Packing by Delivery Item?
Appendix C: Scenario 2 How to Manual Pack the Materials into Pallets?
Appendix D: How to do Automatic Packing?
Appendix E: How to do Goods Movement for Handling Unit Material?
Appendix F: How to Unpack the Handling Unit Material?
A handling unit is a physical unit that consists of the packaging materials (load carrier / packaging material) and the goods contained therein. A handling unit is always a combination of materials and packaging materials. All the information contained in the material items, such as batches and serial numbers, is always available by way of the handling units.
Handling units can be nested, meaning that you can also create new handling units from several handling units as often as you like.
Handling units have unique, scannable identification numbers that can be formed according to standards such as EAN 128 or SSCC.
Figure 1: Handling unit example
Structure
The handling unit object contains the following attributes:
Identification number
Dimensions
Weight
Volume
Status
Materials and quantities
Packaging materials
Packing instructions
A handling unit consists of a handling unit header and handling unit items. For identification purposes, it is given a unique number.
Handling unit header
The header data of a handling unit is divided in the following way:
Weight/Volume/Dimensions
General data
Means-of-transport data
Additional data
Output determination procedure
For more information about each of these detailed points, see Editing detailed data for handling units.
Status
The handling unit is linked to general status management. In this way, the various physical states (planned or implemented) and other attributes (weighed, loaded, blocked or posted goods issue) of handling units can be documented.
You can use the HU_ST_INIT user parameter when you create handling units without object reference to set which initial status the handling unit is to have when it is created.
If you want to implement a status of your own, you can define a user-specific procedure for the packaging material type (see also Define Packaging Material Types).
Handling unit item
The items of a handling unit can consist of material items, packaging materials or other handling units that appear in an overview. For more information about this overview, see the Contents section of Editing detailed data for handling units.
To access the item data of an individual handling unit, select the handling unit concerned and choose Goto  Detailed HU data  Contents.
Integration
Handling units can be used in all processes within the supply chain.
Hope this will helps you and Please Reward If Really Helpful,
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