Determination of First Date in Sales Order

Hello SAP Friends,
Below is the issue we realised during the testing. The issue is with First date in the Sales Order which is not updated as per Unloading Point Calendar .
As per details I received, it should refer Unloading Point Calendar for ShiptoParty and populate the next working day as First date into Sales Order.
How is First Date determined in the sales order? Is there any config settings which is based on Route to do this? Or Is it controlled purely based on settings done in Tcode: VOV8, Leadtime days? I do not think VOV8 settings is controlling that in our APO system.
I have checked MAD, Pick/Pack, GI date all are populated correctly, But First Date did not follow the logic Unloading Point Calendar of ShiptoParty.
Please let know your inputs in this regard.
Thank you
Satish Waghmare

Satish,
I unfortunately don't have a solution for you. However, here are a few observations, and a question.
My experience is that 'First Date' in R/3 is not determined. In every sales order I have ever seen, First Date is proposed (matches the requested delivery date in the Sales order header) by the system, but can be overridden by any changes that the user may elect to make.
Generally, then, after First Date is entered, the R/3 system then may be configured to determine certain master data: Shipping Point, Unloading Point, Route, Route Schedule. From this master data, if you are performing ATP in R/3, the system will then also calculate various dates (if configured) for the confirmed schedule proposal: Normally these calculated dates are Delivery Date, Goods Issue Date, Loading Date, Material Availability date, Transportation Planning Date. If you have configured Route Schedules in R/3, other dates may be determined.
If you are performing ATP in APO, then any such scheduling must be performed in APO. Relevant Master data that was determined in R/3 is carried across to APO during the ATP check and is then used to calculate appropriate durations. This does not happen automatically, you have to configure the scheduling technique you wish to use in APO.
So, my first question: Are you performing ATP in APO? If not, then you should probably close this post, and re-enter in one of the SD forums, since it is an SD issue. If you are performing ATP in APO, then what scheduling technique are you using?
Best regards,
DB49

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