Develop history in Lightroom mobile?

Trying out the LR CC syncing. From desktop, I synced a collection and one photo (RAW) in it appeared correctly in my phone app. Then I made some develop edits on my phone and those changes appeared correctly in my desktop. However, when viewing the photo in the Develop module, all I see under History is "From Lr mobile" for the changes I made on my phone.
How do I see the develop history changes I made on my phone on my desktop? And vice versa? Is this even possible?

History is not synced across apps or embedded in metadata, hence none showing on your desktop.

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Lightroom mobile for Android?

Lightroom mobile? When available for Android users, eg Samsung.

Adobe has already said there would be additional versions for other mobile devices...
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See: Lightroom mobile / FAQ

When importing from an old Lightroom 2 catalog into Lightroom 4 (also from Windows to Mac) I seem to have lost all the development history of my photos. Is there any way to retain that?

I finally managed to get through the process of moving files and catalog from Lightroom 2.7 on a PC to Lightroom 4 on my Mac. I think I did it all correctly and all my file and previews and some tagging seems to be there. Two things are lost
1 - Most importantly, the development history on my files. I can see the edited versions in the previews, but as soon as I click on it, I can see that I lose all the changes I had made before. When I look at Development history, it just says "Imported on...." I'd love to get this back. That is a ton of processing work just lost because I switched computers.
2 - The collection names seem to have come over, but they are all empty. This is also a lot of work lost, though not as important as #1
Is there any recourse?

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Lightroom Mobile Sync - Extremely High CPU Usage/Sync Process Causes LR To Lag

Since my other thread doesn't seem to be getting any responses, I'm pasting what I've found here. Please keep in mind I am not a beginner with Lightroom and consider myself very familiar with Lightroom's features excluding the new mobile sync.
1st message:
I'm on Lr 5.5 and using the 30 day trial of Adobe CC to try syncing one collection of slight more than 1000 images. Despite already having generated the Smart Previews, I can see my CPU crunching through image after image (the rolling hills pattern in the task manager) while doing the sync. I was assuming, since I already created the Smart Previews, that the sync of this collection would begin immediately and be done by simply uploading all of the existing Smart Previews. The Smart Previews folder of the catalog is 871MB and has stayed the same despite the CPU obviously doing *something*. As it is now, the sync progress is incredibly slow, almost at a pace like it's actually exporting full-res JPGs from the RAW images (as a comparison only, I know this should not be what it's actually doing).
Another side effect of this is that I'm basically unable to use my computer for other tasks due to the high CPU utilization.
Win 7 x64 / Lightroom 5.5
Intel i5 2500k OC'd 4.5GHz
16GB RAM
SSD for OS, separate SSD for working catalog and files
2nd message:
As a follow up, now Lightroom thinks all 1026 photos are synced (as shown in "All Sync Photographs" portion of the Catalog though all images after the 832nd image show the sync icon per image stuck at "Building Previews for Lightroom Mobile" and the status at the top left corner has been stuck at "Syncing 194 photos" for over 12 hours. Is there no option to force another sync via Lightroom Desktop and also force the iOS app to manually refresh (perhaps by pulling down on the collections view, like refreshing via the Mail app)?
3rd message:
One more update, I went into Preferences and deleted all mobile data, which automatically signed me out of Adobe CC and then I signed back in. Please keep in mind the Smart Previews were long generated before even starting the trial, and I also manually generated them again (it ran through quickly since it found they were already generated) many times. Now that I'm re-syncing my collection of 1026 images, I can clearly see Lightroom using the CPU to regenerate the Smart Previews which already exist. I have no idea why it's doing this except that it's making the process of uploading the Smart Previews extremely slow. I hope this time around it will at least sync all 1026 images to the cloud.
4th message:
All 1026 images synced just fine and I could run through my culling workflow on the iPad/iPhone perfectly. Now I'm on a new catalog (my current workflow unfortunately uses one catalog per event) and I see the same problem: Smart Previews already generated but when syncing, Lightroom seems to re-generate them again anyway (or take up a lot of CPU simply to upload the existing Smart Previews). Can anyone else chime in on what their CPU utilization is like during the sync process when Smart Previews are already created?
New information:
Now I'm editing a catalog of images that is synced to Lightroom Mobile and notice that my workflow has gotten even slower between photos (relative to what it was before, this is not a discussion about how fast/slow LR should perform). Obviously Lightroom is syncing the edited settings to the cloud, but I can see my CPU running intensively (all 4 cores) on every image I edit and the CPU utilization graph looks different than before I started using LR mobile sync. It still feels like every change isn't simply syncing an SQLite database change but re-generating a Smart Preview to go with it (I'm not saying this is definitely what's happening, but something is intensively using the CPU that wasn't prior to using LR Mobile).
For example: I only update the tint +5 on an image. I see the CPU spike up to around 30-40%, then falls back down, then back up to 100%, then back down to another smaller spike while Lightroom says "Syncing 1 photo". I've attached a screenshot of my CPU graph when doing this edit on just one image. During this entire time, if I try to move onto edit another image, the program is noticeably slower to respond than it was prior to using LR mobile, due to the fact that there appear to be much more CPU intensive tasks running to sync the previous edit. This is proven by un-syncing the collection and immediately the lag goes away.
I'd be happy to test/try anything you have in mind, because it's my understanding that re-syncing photos that are edited that are already in the cloud should be simply updating the database file rather than require regenerating any Smart Previews or other image data. If indeed that's what it should be doing, then some other portion of LR is causing massive CPU usage. If this continues, I will probably not choose to proceed with a subscription despite the fact that i think LR mobile adds a lot of value and boosts my workflow significantly if it wasn't causing the program to lag so badly in the process.
I know this message was incredibly long and probably tedious to read through so thanks in advance to anyone who gets through it
-Jeff

Thanks for reporting. Just passed along your info to some of our devs. One of the things that needs to be created (beside smart previews) during an initial sync are thumbnails + previews for the LrM app - Guido
Hi Guido,
Thanks for pointing this out. I realized the same thing when I tried syncing a collection for offline mode and found out the required space sounded more like Previews + Smart Previews rather than just the Smart Previews.
greule wrote:
Hi Jeff, are your images particularly large or do you make a lot of changes which you save to the original file as part of your workflow?
The CPU usage is almost certainly from us uploading JPEG previews not the Smart Previews - particularly during develop edits as these force new JPEG previews to be sent from Lightroom desktop, but would not force new Smart Previews (unless the develop edits are modifying the original file making us think the Smart Preview is out of date) to be sent.
Guido
My images are full-resolution ~22mp Canon 5D Mark III RAW files so they're fairly large. Even if I only make one basic change such as exposure changes, I saw the issue. By "save to the original file" I'm assuming metadata changes such as timestamps, otherwise edits to the images aren't actually written to the original file. I'm only doing develop module edits so I shouldn't be touching the original file at all at this point in my workflow.
I think it makes sense now that you mention that new JPEG previews need to be generated and sent to the cloud due to updated develop edits. My concern is that this seems to be done in real-time as opposed to how Lightroom Desktop works (which is to render a new Standard Preview or 1:1 Preview on demand, which means only one is being rendered at any given time while viewing it in Loupe View or possibly 2 in Compare View). If I edit, for example, 10 images quickly in a row, once the sync kicks in a few seconds later, editing the 11th image is severely hindered due to the previous 10 images' JPEG previews being rendered and sync'd to the cloud (I'm assuming the upload portion doesn't take much CPU, but the JPEG render will utilize CPU resources to the fullest if it can). Rendering Standard/1:1 Previews locally and being able to walk away while the process finishes works because it is at the start of my workflow, but having to deal with on-the-fly preview rendering while I'm editing greatly impacts my ability to edit. Perhaps there can be a way to limit max CPU utilization for background sync tasks?
It may help to know that I'm running a dual-monitor setup, with Lightroom on a 27" 2560x1440 display maximized to fit the display (2nd display not running LR's 2nd monitor). Since I'm using a retina iPad, the optimal Standard Previews resolution should be the same at 2880 pixels.
Thanks again for the help!

Lightroom Mobile & Lightroom Web?

I have looked into these programs however, I have a few questions about them. I know it isn't actually uploading the Raw file, therefore, is it uploading Smart Previews? How big are smart previews? Am I able to edit them as if I had the actual file on Lightroom Mobile or Lightroom web? Also, what do I do when I have filled up a Smart view preview with the 20GB of storage? Delete the Smart View previews from my Mac version? When I save the changes I've made on Lightroom web or Lightroom Mobile, it will automatically sync with the desktop versions without telling it to do anything?
I've never built Smart View previews. Is there a quality difference that is noticeable while editing? That way I don't make a decision that doesn't look as good on the original one. I can zoom in the same and everything on a Smart View and it will look as if I have the real file? Or can I set how big my Smart Previews are?
I seen something about collaboration on Lightroom Web, does this mean that my friend who also has Lightroom can go in and work on a file I've made?

How big are smart previews?
- about 1mb when I last looked
Am I able to edit them as if I had the actual file?
- pretty well. Think of it as equivalent to Quick Develop - good enough ball park adjustments
What do I do when I have filled up a Smart view preview with the 20GB of storage?
- Not sure. If you have the Photo bundle (PS+LR) there isn't a storage limit
It will automatically sync with the desktop versions without telling it to do anything?
- yes, that's the beauty of it
I've never built Smart View previews
- When you sync a collection, LR sends smart previews - as you happen to know. But for using for using LrM/LrW you don't need to know that background information because all LrM/LrW smart preview activity happens behind the scenes.
Is there a quality difference that is noticeable while editing?
- I regard adjustments as ball park, not final. I might share the pics on FB or email them to a friend, but review them on a colour managed monitor before I might print them. The advantage for me is that I've had time on the train to contemplate how I want the picture to look, and then in the pub I have made those ball park adjustments. So I've saved time, and when I am back chained to the desk I can focus more on the final fine tuning.
I seen something about collaboration on Lightroom Web, does this mean that my friend who also has Lightroom can go in and work on a file I've made?
- LrW doesn't have adjustments.
- When you share a collection with someone, they only have favourites and comments, so LrW is more about sharing a shoot with someone who might want to choose which pictures they want. When you get back to your desktop, you can see their favourites and comments, and can easily select the ones they want
- As the account owner, when you review a collection in LrW you get the Pick/Reject flags in your browser and can use the P / U / X shortcuts. It's a bigger screen than your iPad/Phone, and colour managed too (though the lack of CM on mobile devices doesn't matter if you remember that you're doing ball park adjustments that save you time later).

Will we ever be able to import RAW files from iPad camera roll into Lightroom Mobile?

Is this a planned feature, or should I look elsewhere for iPad photo editing?
I only shoot in RAW and I would sometimes like to do a quick edit in the field. As it stands, Lightroom Mobile is a completely useless application for me. Needing to import the photos to my Macbook in order to use a dumbed-down version of Lightroom makes no sense to me. Why do I need Lightroom Mobile if I need to have my computer with me to use it anyways?
Without this feature, I don't quite understand what Lightroom Mobile is supposed to accomplish. Is it purely for people who only own a desktop and need to perform basic edits on the go? Is that a large enough demographic to develop an entire app? Even if it is meant for only those people, it would still likely be far more useful to them if they could import RAW photos in the field and not have to stop by their studio/home to import and move into a collection first.

The likely real reason why Adobe doesn't do this yet even though many people have requested it is that it would cost them dearly in bandwidth and storage capacities. Right now only smallish lossy compressed, downscaled dngs or simple jpegs travel to and from Adobe's servers which is tenable. Sending full raw files from 24+ MP cameras is probably not something they can realistically do yet. Having the iPad try to generate the lossy dng will likely show how very low powered they are in comparison to a simple laptop and is likely not yet a realistic solution so you'd still have to send the file online and have the dng generated by a server.
I use the mobile thing for simple iPad slideshows and simple portfolios. The color is really good as the current generation of iPad screens is very well done with close to sRGB gamut. I'll sometimes do some simple edits but it is really not very useful for that yet. It shows promise but is not useful as a laptop replacement yet on trips. You're better off getting a lightweight laptop (many cheapo ultralight windows ones out there nowadays and the MacBook Airs are great for this) and running the full Lightroom on that if you are traveling.

Using Lightroom Mobile as travel downloader/editor

Friends,
I'm a new member of the Lightroom family. I'd like to use Lightroom Mobile while traveling whereby I download RAWs (or RAWs and .jpegs) to my iPad, edit the images on my iPad, then easily sync/transfer those edits to my computer when I get home. Is that possible?
Thanks!
Steve

I don't think it matters that the iPad isn't colour managed (and LrM isn't designed for it). OK, it might if you are brave or stupid enough to make exhibition quality prints without reviewing the image on a real computer. Instead the adjustments on the iPad are ball park, equivalent to Quick Develop, they give you time to think about the image, try out crops, rate and flag etc. Your time in front of a monitor is then spent on fine tuning.
An alternative workflow is possible if you get access to a real computer while you're travelling and if it has decent upload speeds. Log into your lightroom.adobe.com in a web browser and drag the photos from Explorer/Finder into a collection in the browser window. The raw file then uploads, and will be synced down to your computer when you get home. You can then make adjustments in LrMobile and avoid kludges like Syncomatic.
Personally, I think the small laptop is still the way to go. For now anyway.

Preserving Development History in DNG

A nice feature of Lightroom is that you can store the development history in it, and review any version of edits by just hovering over them. Since they are all XMP edits, it would be natural to store them back in the DNG file, so that we can take it all with the original file if switching from one LR setup to another, or to Aperture or plain ACR/Bridge. Does the current DNG spec provide for history storage, and do the current DNG Converter (4.4.1), Camera Raw, Lightroom and Bridge sync history back into the DNG and allow to see it (at least it LR?)
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Lightroom Mobile - Color and Stars rating

In order to be able to use LR mobile as an pre-selection tool we urgently need stars & color rating options for Lightroom Mobile. Can't believe it was left out while designing v1.0. This is just another data field. Apart from the opportunities to retouch the photos which are pretty useless atm, I can wait for them to evolve, the rating stuff is essential to really fall into workflow. So dear LR mobile team, efforts in adding stars and color ratings are really much appreciated. Well and smart collection would be nice as well!
To add some praise. I love the idea and I appreciate that the sync is running pretty good and also the app itself is running smoothly even though the adjustment interface is far apart from being an eye candy. But I would say it's aligned to be an working tool instead of being a feast for the eyes.
So I'm looking forward and hoping more rating features appearing on the horizon soon.
Cheers,
LX

Thanks Tom for your kind reply!! I'm also Product Manager in Product Development for a big company and being in charge of realiziing convergent use cases across the entire device spectrum and therefore totally agree with your approach to get into things. My complaint wasn't meant to be ungrateful it was just the sight of an user which has set up use-cases and workflows to efficiently get the job (even it's a hobby) done. So hope you got it right. I've experienced Lightroom and Photoshop over the past few years a really great tools, but from my point of view, Adobe sometimes is focused to much on being amazing algorithm developers and less customer workflow supporters. I'm really spending a lot of time with my photography partner (also a reallife Product Manager) discussing what could have been from a simple workflows point of view. I'm pretty sure there is quite a lot of wishes our there. From obviousness to edge cases, but we always came to certain points where presumed little efforts would make a huge difference.
To come to an end. I'm looking forward to see star and color rating (and probably support for smart galleries) hopefully very soon. Thank you guys for the move to bring Lightroom to the tablet!
If you and the team are interested on more precise feedback on LR-Mob and probably Lightroom workflows I would be delighted to provide you with.
So if you are interested, just pick me up, I've dropped you a linkedin request.
All the best from overseas,
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Develop history for video?

I know that video can only be developed using quick develop, but this has an unfortunate side effect: no access to develop history. It must be in there somewhere, but there's no way to access it, since there's no History panel in Library module and videos don't appear at all in the Develop module. Is there a way to implement a History panel for video? It's a bit messy, but even just allowing videos to appear in the Develop module with all the controls greyed out would allow access to its History. The only other solution I can think of is to place a History panel in the Library module, which would seem to be a whole lot more work - although of course it would be the more elegant solution.
Having no develop history visible is quite a pain, because aside from the obvious inability to step back and forth between changes, it also prevents the user from checking to see what has actually been done to a video. Given the nature of the quick develop controls this is even more of a problem.

There are plenty of video editors out there. Likely never (I know, never say never) in Lightroom.

Unable to connect Lightroom mobile 5.4

After upgrading my Lightroom version, I try to connect Lightroom mobile from my Mac, but unable to do it. I have a message "Lightroom a rencontré un problème de connexion inattendu. Veuillez réessayer ultérieurement (Attempt to index a nil value)."
Of course, I use the right login/password as I have an Adobe ID (I have a subscription to Adobe CC).
How can I do ?

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Lightroom Mobile resolution too soft

I don't wish to use Lr mobile for serious edits, but one practical use I'd like to use it for is to leisurely evaluate recent imports (saved to a designated collection) and label picks for further development. However, I'm finding Lr mobile cannot show the detail I need for evaluating noise, focus or micro-contrast. With respect to the high-resolution displays on modern smart phones and tablets, it would seem Lr mobile should be quite adequate for this task ... is better resolution not possible??
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I know ~nothing about Lightroom mobile.
That said, if it's getting the smart previews from Lightroom, you can make those any size you want.
For example, using a script I wrote (free) called 'Rebuild Smart Previews' (any size you want).
http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ProductsAndServices/MiscLrScripts
It's possible that something might not like those being non-standard size, but I've not run into it, yet.
Rob

How to move develop history?

I know it's in my catalog in the back up, but is there an easier and less data heavy way to move this data?
I only ask before previous iterations of LR had the develop history in the XMP data but it's changed location. I hand off my edits to a supervisor who oversees the final pass before it reaches a client's hands and he like seeing my work progress and teaching small corrections (as to tune to his studio image standards). It hasn't been a problem for a long time but he recently found the lack of develop history (which I had no clue of) so I was wondering if there was an easier way...?

Another option requires a bit of advance planning - but if you have a habitual working method which has sequential stages, you could make some Snapshots representing the image at the end of each stage. Not every single edting step, just certain key ones.
Say (to take a completely ficititious example): one at import, one after basic tonal parameters are set, one after hue adjustment and WB is completed, one after basic sharpening and noise reduction are set, one after any healing and cloning, one after other local adjustment corrections. Clicking through these gives a sort of slideshow of the cumulative editing.
Unlike History, such Snapshots are written out to external metadata and then read in again, either by ACR, or in a future Lightroom import. And unlike a Catalog, ACR understands these - so that's useful for sending to a PS user without LR. One might hand off a DNG in this scenario, that incorporates the Raw file plus current editing metadata, an embedded preview which reflects that, plus a few prior editing snapshots included.
My only reservation about the above, is that LR encourages a fluid approach, with many aspects of the image taken forward together. There is no quality or practical consequence to making the changes in one or another order (as there often is, working purely in a bitmap editor).
Speaking for myself, not only would I probably not remember to make such Snapshots as I went - but work unsystematically (or let's call it "spontaneously"), and such snapshots would not be really informative IMO.
On a completely different tack: if the recipient wants the ability (for example) to see an image as required "before" any local corrections, or in the absence of applied sharpening - then those parts of the processing can be easily shown or hidden on the fly, via the toggle switch located against each individual adjustments panel within LR (except Basic). Doing this does not require the image to have been accompanied by either History, or Snapshots. (I don't think that feature is available in ACR.)
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Lightroom Mobile for other plattforms?

Why don´t Adobe develop Lighroom Mobile for Android?

Lightroom Mobile for Android Users?
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I am trying to import developed images from LightRoom 5 in o Photoshop 6. I am receiving this message and the images will not open.....'Could not open scratch file because the file is locked, you do not have necessary access permissions or another progra

I am trying to import developed images from LightRoom 5 Photoshop 6 for further editing. I am receiving this message and the images will not open.....'Could not open scratch file because the file is locked, or you do not have necessary access permissions or another program is using the file. Use the 'Properties' command in the Windows Explorer to unlock the file. How do I fix this? I would greatly appreciate it if you would respond with terms and procedures that a computer ignorant user, such as me, will understand. Thanks.

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