Develop preset has a "+" next to it

I found a lot of topics on presets but nothing that talks about a "+" sign......
I have LR 4.3, and have several User Presets. Most are from downloaded and installed presets like the "D300 Standard", "D300 Neutral", etc.
I've been using these for a long time - long before LR4, and they work fine.
Today, because I wanted a bunch of images to all have the same develop preset, in grid mode, I selected everybody and assigned the "D300 ACR4.4" preset while in the Library. Then, I went into Develop to tweak the ones I want, and noticed that my "D300 Standard" preset has a "+" next to it... I'm not using that preset for this image, and I'm curious what the "+" means...

I'm pretty sure it indicates the preset that was applied during the last import.....if next time you do an import and select "None" for "Develop Settings" under the "Apply During Import" box, I think you'll find the "+" will disappear.
Lightroom tends to use the "+" sign in various places to indicate something significant, for example to indicate the Target Collection (usually this is the Quick Collection, but can be re-assigned to any collection). Pressing "B" adds the current selection to the Target Collection, and the "+" indicates which collection is the Target. Same with Keywords.....assign one or more keywords to the Paint Can and that will be indicated by a "+" at the end of each keyword in the Keyword List.

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But I did. The same internal error popup arose on launch and launch did not complete on my laptop. I tried chat but no joy so I eventually called Apple Care. I had noticed that on my laptop (and the iMac for that matter), that there was no Library folder after my user name. The Apple tech explained that the Library folder is actually there but it is hidden because it's very easy for users to do some very nasty things to their computer by going astray while in the Library folder. The folder is actually there, but they hide it. I did remember seeing that the tech helping me with my iMac had typed the work "Library" while she was controlling my computer. Basically she had activated the hidden Library folder so she could open the path that Lightroom was trying to follow to create that "Develop Presets" folder. For some reason, the inability to create that folder in the launch process was preventing launch from being completed. The Apple tech said she didn't actually have to do that and activated the Library folder by use of the Go selection on the menu bar. Anyway, once that complete path was replicated and opened, the next step was to go to the Lightroom Permissions field and add my user name to the user categories already there and enable "read and write" permissions to my user name. Once done, I shut down my laptop, and then rebooted. I launched Lightroom and then boom, voila, heavens to betsy, etc. it launched and suddenly a dismal weekend turned into a great one.
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When I enable the library filter Develop Presets I see three instances of "Unavailable Preset" with counts of 1, 23, and 323. In detail these are
(1) no presets at all, just a Clarity adjust. Click on import, then back on the Clarity --> applies correctly. Then when I refer back to the Develop Presets filter the count has changed from one to zero.
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- duplicate GOOFY to GOOFY-2
- delete GOOFY file (I hoped LR3 would remove the references to the deleted GOOFY)
- in grid view mass-apply GOOFY-2 to the correct images
- quit, restart LR3
I've forgotten exactly what happened next, but for sure LR3 did not remove the non-existant preset links. For some reason I decided to rename the duplicated GOOFY-2 back to GOOFY. Now the images that correctly referenced GOOFY have two references to presets named GOOFY the oldest one is a NO-OP (does nothing), the latest one works as expected.
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** how to mass-delete an unwanted preset reference from a selection of images?
** how to clean up the above "Unavailable Preset" errors?

When a preset is created, it stores the current level of the chosen parameters at the time of creation; in the example below, the preset which will be named CurrentPreset1 will store the current levels applied to the selected photo at the time the preset was created, and in this case will only store values corresponding to Color, Lens Corrections, and Process version.
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I have moved my library from an XP machine to a Vista machine, and am losing a lot of work. What I think is happening is that my images are "detached" from a Preset.
Many of my images have a Develop Preset applied upon import. So the first step in the edit list is Import/XXXX Preset.
I have moved the images and the catalog to the new machine. The preview image looks right, but as soon as I do something to trigger a refresh, the image turns red and loses its rotation. It seems that it is applying all of the steps, except the first one. I am guessing it cannot "find" the preset to reapply it.
I have moved the Presets to the corresponding folder, but b/c Vista renamed somethings, it is not the same path to get to the Preset.
In WinXP:
C:\Documents and settings\UserName\Application Data\Adobe\Lightroom\Develop Presets
In Vista:
C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Develop Presets
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This is my take on the question:
http://www.lightroomforums.net/showthread.php?14169-What-is-the-purpose-of-the-quot-Store- Presets-with-Catalog-quot-option

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Hi all, I'm running a week-old trial copy of LR3.3 on Windows, and I seem to have a doubled set of Develop Presets in the Import dialog's 'Apply During Import' dropdown menu. However, I just get the single list in the Presets panel of the Develop module.
More specifically, in the Import dropdown menu, I get:
An alphabetical listing of all built-in presets (with no user presets), followed by another alphabetical listing of all built-in presets, this time with the user presets.
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http://lightroom-blog.com/2010/09/getting-rid-of-default-lightroom-develop-presets.html

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Hi all.... just got Lighroom 2 as a gift for Christmas and watched the 7 hour Luminous Ladnscape tutorial, so I'm ready to go.
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Mario,
Unfortunately I cannot reproduce what you're seeing with my german LR3.2RC.
But:
Even if I do store my presets with the catalog, I don't see any .lrtemplate files for the standard Adobe LR presets in the preset folder right next to the catalog. My catalog folder structure looks like this:
Folder [catalogname]
File [catalogname].lrcat
Folder [catalogname] Previews.lrdata
Folder Lightroom-EinstellungenFolder Develop Presets
Folder Lightroom-Vorgaben (Empty)
Folder User Presetsseveral .lrtemplate files
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Switzerland

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Testing the develop preset "Update with current settings" I've noticed that the existing images referencing the updated preset do not change. If you click the associated history steps before/after then the image updates.
Is this "correct" or is this a bug? If it is correct, what is the point of "Update with current settings"?
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Import and storage of LR4 develop presets

i use iMac 27", 16GB ram and mountain lion, along with LR4.2
i have only recently begun to use develop presets, being lazy has just creeped up on me. I have 15 or 20 presets showing in my preset panel. Most are old.
i find that under app;ication/support/adobe/lightroom, that i have two folders. one called "develop presets", and one called "user presets." both contain folders of presets. some seem to be duplicates. in total, the 2 folders contain about twice as many as in the preset panels. a good number do not show in my develop preset panel.
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vince
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A puzzle - smart collections - develop preset, numbers doesnt add up

Hi
I was playing with the smart collection tonight, and specifically wanted to find out how the "Develop preset" smart collection would work. In this process I made a smart collection as the below.
Match = Any
Develop preset = Default
Develop preset = Specific
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Regards
Soren

Hi
I was playing with the smart collection tonight, and specifically wanted to find out how the "Develop preset" smart collection would work. In this process I made a smart collection as the below.
Match = Any
Develop preset = Default
Develop preset = Specific
Develop preset = Custom
In other words a smart collection with all the different possibilities for Develop preset.
This smart collections says it has 2048 pictures. In my catalog I have a total of 2044 pictures. When I go into the collection and select all pictures it select 2044.
Why does it comes up as 2048?
To figure out the reason for the difference of 4, I then tried the different combinations of develop preset and found out that the virtual copies gets registered as both "Default" and "Custom". I have 3 virtual copies in the catalog so even if this is the reason for the mismatch I still have a difference of 1 I cant explain.
Any one who has a logic explanation to this or is it a bug?
Edit: I looked a bit further, and can see that at the when I go to the end of the grid in the smart collection I can see the numbers 2045 - 2048 but there is no picture here, and furthermore in the filmstrip there is 4 grey boxes at the end, but no picture shown in them. So seems to be an error, so question is there a way I can get rid of these "ghost" pictures.
Regards
Soren

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The folders I'm talking about are:
Lightroom B&W Filter Presets
Lightroom B&W Presets
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So there is no changes on Mac remove or not templates from develop module, folders is still present even if it's empty
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fileNamed templates\color\ templates\bw\ templates\bw_filter\ templates\general\ templates\effects\ templates\bw_toned\ templates\video\ import AgPathUtils
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The "My Mixology" is not Showing up in my import or develop Presets of LR3. Do I have to download this?
Thanks for your assistance.

Hello dj_paige.
Thanks for the reply.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOdC561kt5I
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