Develop Settings

I have a PC, and I just upgraded to Production Premium 5.5 and bought Lightroom 4
Do develop settings applied in ACR show up in Lightroom 4?
Develope settings applied in Lightroom 4 do not appear in Bridge......
Are they the same "devlop settings"?

Ian Lyons wrote:
The new Process Version 2012 develop settings will not be available in any version of Camera Raw prior to version 7.
I thought that ACR 6.7 will able to interpret PV 2012. The only drawback in ACR 6.7 will be that the new PV 2012 settings will not be changeable in the ACR GUI. And this is already the case for ACR 6.7 RC (with a few rendering differences compared to LR4).
Quote from the lightroom journal:
The correct plug-in for Lightroom 4 and Photoshop CS5 compatibility is Camera Raw 6.7, currently available on Adobe Labs Please keep in mind that currently Camera Raw 6.7 is a a Release Candidate version of the plug-in.
...or did I misunderstand something?

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Cannot copy or clear develop settings in Adobe Bridge

okay, here's my problem. all of the sudden i am no longer able to clear or copy develop settings when i right click on raw files in adobe bridge. the problem seemingly began out of nowhere. when i attempt to use these functions i get the following error message: "Bridge's parent application is not active. Bridge requires that a qualifying product has been launched at least once to enable this feature." i have googled this to no end and it seems there is no solution that actually works. just to be clear, all of the results for this search ive found seem to be users getting the same error message and the inability to OPEN raw files from bridge; this is NOT my issue. i can still open raw files from bridge with no problems whatsoever but i just cant clear my develop settings. ive googled "cannot clear develop settings" and have found nothing specific to my situation. ive tried resetting bridge and camera raw to their default settings and that hasnt worked. ive moved my cache to a different drive and that hasnt worked. i opened bridge from photoshop and that also hasnt worked. id like to think there is a solution that doesnt require me to uninstall and re-install the entire application. any help would be greatly appreciated.

any help would be greatly appreciated.
For that more info is needed like system, specs, versions etc. Check this for a start:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/375816?tstart=0
Also in this forum are several threads with the qualifying problem subject.

What happens when there is a conflict between develop settings stored in file metadata, and the catalog?

Hello,
Wondering if someone could quickly help me with understanding how develop settings are read back into lightroom... (I'm using lightroom 3.6) as I've just had a bit of a panic that my mis-understanding of the system might have screwed things up a bit!
As I do all my image tinkering on a laptop with a small disk, I am often archiving directories of images to an old server we have, and then just bringing them back onto my laptop whenever I need them again. I have a single lightroom catalog on my laptop, and I thought (I now think wrongly!) that all my develop settings updates were stored solely in the lightroom catalog on my laptop, and as long as I kept a copy of the original jpeg images knocking around somewhere so that I could restore them to my laptop when needed, that I could always get back to the most recently edited version of my images. Often I copied a directory of images from the server to the laptop, edited them with lightroom, then deleted the jpg files from the laptop thinking the originals left on the server would be sufficient to restore my work later.
However recently just before deleting a batch of jpgs from the laptop, I did a quick compare with the server and was horrified to realise that the files where different, and that changes *are* written to the jpeg files! Looking in lightroom I have the 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG [etc] files' turned on.
My questions would be:
1 - Have I lost work by effectively deleting the metadata from the jpeg files or is it also preserved in the catalog?
2 - What would happen if some develop settings for an image were stored in the catalog, and a completely different set of develop settings were stored in the file - which would take priority?
3 - Have I screwed up and if so is there anything I can do to minimise the damage? : {
Many thanks for any advice!!
Nicola

My questions would be:
1 - Have I lost work by effectively deleting the metadata from the jpeg files or is it also preserved in the catalog?
2 - What would happen if some develop settings for an image were stored in the catalog, and a completely different set of develop settings were stored in the file - which would take priority?
3 - Have I screwed up and if so is there anything I can do to minimise the damage? : {
1. Lightroom ALWAYS stores the edits in its catalog file.
2. Lightroom ALWAYS uses the edits in its catalog file. The information stored in the JPG is NEVER used to display the image in Lightroom.
3. As long as you don't eliminate the photo from the catalog, you are fine, your edits are present in the catalog file and Lightroom will use those to display the image.
As I do all my image tinkering on a laptop with a small disk, I am often archiving directories of images to an old server we have, and then just bringing them back onto my laptop whenever I need them again.
If you have moved the photos to the server, using Lightroom (or using Adobe Lightroom - Find moved or missing files and folders), there's no need to bring them back to your laptop. You can leave the photos on the server, and access them on the server, and everything works properly

How can I copy develop settings on multiple images from one folder to another?

I have a bunch of Fuji X-T1 raw images that I have converted to DNG form. Once Lightroom supports X-T1 raw images directly, I would like to replace the DNG files by the corresponding raw files (which I have saved) without having to redo all of my edits.
I've tried an experiment with a NEF file, which Lightroom supports: If I convert it to a DNG file, import the DNG file, then replace the DNG file with the corresponding NEF file, Lightroom still thinks the file is named DNG. This behavior makes me nervous.
So what I would like to do is to import all of the Fuji raw files, then transfer the develop settings from each DNG file to the corresponding raw file, then finally archive and delete the DNG files.
Is there any way to do this other than by hand? That is, if I have a folder with a few hundred DNG files, is there any way to tell Lightroom to take the develop settings of every file in the folder and transfer them to the correspondingly named file in the folder of raw files?
If not, can someone suggest to me a way of accomplishing this that does not involve copying and pasting the data for every image by hand?

The Syncomatic plugin is designed for thus type of task to - see http://photographers-toolbox.com/products/jbeardsworth/syncomatic/

Develop settings are not saved

Hello,
I'm working mainly with jpeg and psd files and trying to save all settings and metadata automatically to be able to use it from other applications (e.g.Bridge). The two catalog options "Include develop settings in metadata..." and "Automatically write changes to XMP" are activated.
However, Lightroom does not save the modifications that I made in the Develop module. All other metadata changes (ratings, title, IPTC, etc...) are saved and available in other applications. I'm using version 3.3 on 64bit Windows. I'm not 100% sure but as I recall I didn't have this problem with previous versions.
Is there any solution?
Thanks!

It's not clear what you actually expected. Outside of Lr or Camera Raw the only way that an image will be rendered as per your edits is if they had been exported (i.e. newly fully rendered version of JPEG or PSD). Simply saving the setting does nothing other than embed a bunch of metadata.

Cannot paste develop settings to multiple images in Lightroom 3

I have just started using Lightroom 3 and am only able to paste develop settings to one image. If I select multiple images it will only paste the setting to the active image, not all selected images. I never had this issue with Lightroom 2. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

Hi Dorin
I think the complaint is still valid - there should be no reason that you should have to toggle to Auto Sync before being able to paste your develop settings to the entire target selection, not just the active image in the selection. It should work with that switch toggled to Sync mode as well -- there is obviously a bug here.
I am having the identical problem as the original poster. I am using LR 3.3 on a Mac, OS 10.6.5, in other words I cannot get develop settings to copy to all my selected target images while I am in the Develop module, only the active image within the target images, without toggling the Sync button to Auto Sync.
This even after the release notes for 3.3 say they have corrected for the problem "Paste Settings did not apply to all images in the Develop module Filmstrip" (see http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/12/lightroom-3-3-and-camera-raw-6-3-now-avail able.html)
This is silly. How do we ask Adobe to correct this bug?
Cheers
Adam

Bridge CS4 does not see ACR presets in Develop Settings

I think that this is new with CS4. I create a Preset in ACR in the Preset Panel. That Preset works fine on photos in ACR. The Preset is listed in the Camera Raw Settings folder in the Finder.
But, when I try to apply the Preset in Bridge via Edit > Develop Settings, the Preset does not appear. Is this correct? I believe that a preset did appear in CS3 in Bridge Develop Settings.
The preset was created with a Raw file from the 1DS MkIII. Could it be camera-related?
Am I missing something here?
Thanks,
Sonny

Strange. I Quit Bridge. Relaunched Bridge, and the Presets now appear in the Develop Settings list.
I presume that I should not have to Quit and relaunch for the presets to appear?
I created another preset. It only appeared in Develop Settings when I again quit and relaunched Bridge, even though it appears in the Camera Raw Settings folder.
Sonny

CS3 (XP sp3) My "develop settings" vanish or are grayed out!?

I have CS3 installed at my studio and home.
It's been fine, but after a couple months use, at my studio if I right click on a thumbnail to apply the "previous settings" from another image to a group or other single image, the "Develop options" when I right click on the thumbnail has disappeared? (sometimes it appears on SOME images... usually it's gone). Now this happened at home too. (two different machines.
CLICKING EDIT at the top menu and selecting DEVELOP SETTINGS, opens another menu that has ALL the options (faded - grayed out).
My normal work flow is to tweak one image in camera raw, click DONE and then select all like images and APPLY PREVIOUS CONVERSION -
this has now stopped on both machines - it's literally driving my business to a hault! I'm using Bridge 2.1.1.9 it says
I've seen others have this same problem, but I didn't see any solution.

I haven't done your reboot or re-set options yet. (doesn't seem like I need to - as I'm trying other things to try and track down the problem).
So far here's what I've tried.
I went to an older directory and bridge worked fine as it should on all these images.
I went back to the problem dir... (same thing) no develop option on most image. (not all).
So - I created a new dir... "test" and copied 25% of the images that were having problems into the new dir. Went in there with bridge and (so far it's working fine). STRANGE.
(when I click on a image, it brings up camera raw... 4.5 and works fine... bridge stays in the background). WHEN I HAVE THE PROBLEM - clicking the image brings up CS3 in the background behind bridge.
I have no idea why.... still trying to see what causes it.
I'll continue to copy all the files into the new dir and see if I can make it happen again...
will advise as I progress.

Problem with JPGs Downlaoded with Nikon Transfer - Can't Apply Develop Settings in Bridge CS4 and ACR 5.3 Settings Don't Stick

I have found what I believe is a "problem" with JPGs downloaded using Nikon Transfer (ver 1.4.1) and processing same in Adobe Bridge CS4 (Develop Settings) and/or Adobe Camera Raw 5.3 (Photoshop CS4 and Elements 6 as hosts).
Anyone using these programs in their workflow?
The problem, quite simply, is that neither ACR settings (nor Bridge CS4 Develop Settings) "stick" when applied to JPGs that have been downloaded via Nikon Transfer ver 1.4.1.
The same images from the same cameras (D300 and D90), downloaded moments later using Nikon's predecessor software PictureProject work just fine in both Bridge and ACR. Develop Settings appled in Bridge immediately are seen, and JPGs opened in ACR, and settings applied, then "Done" immediately stick and are reflected in Bridge.
If someone else is processing their JPGs in this manner, please let me know, as I have reported the problem to both Nikon and Adobe, and although I have tested it on two different cameras and two differnt laptops, I would like to get an impartial result as well.
One other test, the problem does not seem to affect Nikon's RAW (NEF) format files downloaded from a D2x using Nikon Transfer. More/different test are forthcoming.
Thanks
jeff

ALoverofNikon wrote:
I have generally thought that using the camera manufacturer's software was the safest and most conveneint
Can't say one way or another on that statement about using manufacturers' software. Since Adobe has to interpret each camera models' RAW format having the latest ACR seems to be the best option. But if the manufacturers' software is more convenient, and you get the same results then use it. But it does appear you are not getting what you want, so suggest you try a duplicate test run with images straight from the card reader to Bridge and see if you still have same problems.
I do know it is widely recommended that using a quality card reader gives you more reliable data than getting the pictures straight from the camera. Does not seem intuitive, but that has been experience of many.

Camera Raw 6.7 won't save developer settings

I'm running Adobe CS 5 with Camera Raw 6.7 on a Windows Vista machine.
I have a Canon T3i that I shoot all of my Raw files from. Which Camera Raw 6.7 supports and have not had trouble in the past.
Recently everytime I've loaded the Raw files into a new project folder and begin to adjust the first Raw file, none of the develper settings are saved or the updated Raw file won't show anything on Bridge (The little triangle on top of the Raw file won't show on Bridge). The XMP file contains the adjustments but bridge and camera raw will not load the adjustments. I am not able to copy or paste settings from other previous Raw files either.
The weird part is that I am able to adjust Raw files and developer settings are properly saved in older folder created previously. This seems to happen everytime I start a new project and load the Raw files into it.
I've tried clearing out the Camera Raw cache, and export cache for that folder but nothing help. I've even tried rebooting. Only after a good amount of time has passed and I've tried to keep on clearing the cache does Camera Raw finally functions properly and saves the developer settings afterwards. It's very random and very annoying. I usually end up wating alot of time trying to get it to work and at times can get very frustrating when the projects needs to be completed.
Has anyone had similar issues with Camera Raw? Any solutions or work arounds? Or what's causing it, and how can I avoid it??
Any help would be greatly appreciated and would help me not loose too much sleep.

So after looking around in the forums I found the solution. Some other members had similar issues.
The issue stems from not having the correct time set on the camera. Here's the link to the forum post with more detail:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4962247#4962247

I have accidentally deleted a large number of develped images in Lightroom before I did a backup. I reimported the original raw files back into Lightroom hoping the develop settings would be re-established but no luck. Notice system mau have done an auto-

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I have accidentally deleted a large number of develped images in Lightroom before I did a backup. I reimported the original raw files back into Lightroom hoping the develop settings would be re-established but no luck. Notice system mau have done an auto-backup as have an lrcat-journal file. Can I use this to restore my develop settings. I also have jpgs generated from all the deleted images.

Hello,
if you have a backup of your catalog you can do the following:
1. Backup your catalog first
2. Restore your backup catalog to some location
3. Open your current catalog and select "files->import from another catalog".
4. Select your backup catalog and your lost images. LR ask you if you want to overwrite the current settings or save them as a virtual copy.
As an alternativ you can open your backup catalog, select the "lost" images and save the development settings as xmp sidecar fiels (using ctrl-s). Then open your current catalog, seletct the images and use "Metadata->Read Metadata from files".

I have a dual monitor setup. When I paste develop settings from one image to another, Lightroom switches the active window.

Strange problem. Lightroom 5.5. Windows 8.1. Dual monitor setup.
I'm processing a large batch of photos. I have Monitor #1 set as my main develop window, with Monitor #2 set only to display a larger version of the image I'm working with. If I copy the develop settings off of one image and try to paste them onto another image, Lightroom will switch from Monitor #1 to Monitor #2 as the main develop window, and will not display anything on Monitor #1.
If I then try to paste develop settings onto another image on Monitor #2, LR will then display a larger version of the image I'm working with on Monitor #1.
To work the way I want to, I have to continually drag my develop window back to Monitor #1 every time I try to paste develop settings onto a new image. How can I make this stop?

I just tried what I think you’re saying you’re doing and I don’t have the problem with LR 5.5 on Windows 7 SP 2.
Does the same thing happen whether you use the key shortcuts vs the Settings / Copy/Paste options on the menu?
I ask this because if you’re using the keyboard shortcuts, maybe you have some display-manager program that has bound itself to the Ctrl-Shift-V (paste settings) to the function of move-to-other-monitor which would do at least part of what you describe.
You can also test this theory by doing a Ctrl-Shift-V with an application other than LR as the active window and see if it moves. I suppose Ctrl-Shift-C might also play into it so try both of these hot-key combinations with a program that isn’t LR.
If none of this sheds any light on the situation, then give a more detailed description of the low-level functions you’re doing to accomplish the copy-paste of settings, so someone else could replicate the steps exactly.
Specific detailed steps, like:
left-click on source photo’s thumbnail in the filmstrip
press Ctrl-Shift-C to copy the settings
click Check-None
enable the white-balance and calibration checkboxes
click Ok
left-click on destination photo's thumbnail in the filmstrip
click on Settings / Paste Settings in LR’s menus to paste the settings to the selected photo

Why do JPEG files with LR Develop settings open in Photoshop Camera Raw?

Why does an image that has been altered by Lightroom cause the RAW Converter to open when trying to view it in Photoshop. Perhaps this might help; if I import, enhance and convert a RAW image in Lightroom to a jepg image it will open in Photoshop without issue. However if I then alter the jpeg image in Lightroom, update the Metadata and try to view it in Photoshop it cause the Photoshop's RAW Converter to open. Is the alter image's information held in a side car file (xmp) that can'r be read by Photoshop? If so would I need to re-export, (convert), the image again in Lightroom to embedd the changes thus making sure it could be read by all the various programs that are available to view images. As is I send photographs to newspapers and print houses it is important for me to know if they would be receiving fully adjusted images or only the adjustments that were made prior to converting from RAW to jpeg. Just in case...I am new to Lightroom. Thanks in advance for any help.
Message title was edited by: Brett N

When you update the metadata for a JPEG, it is saved internally (there is no sidecar). Any JPEG with Camera Raw develop settings saved in its metadata will open in the Camera Raw plug-in in Photoshop. That is the only way for Photoshop to deal with the Camera Raw settings. Camera Raw settings can be added by the Develop module of Lightroom or from the Camera Raw plug-in dialog in Photoshop or Bridge. To prevent the file from opening in Camera Raw in Photoshop, you have to remove the develop settings and other metadata that ties the file to Camera Raw.

Develop settings did not transfer in Lightroom 5

Hi, when I upgraded my catalog from Lightroom 4 to Lightroom 5, it appears that not all of the my develop settings transfered for all photos. If I am to open the catalog in Lightroom 4, the appear to still exist. How can I see all the settings in Lightroom 5.
-Thanks Todd

Hey ssprengel,
No, I can't really make sense of any pattern. I edited almost all of my photos directly in Lightroom 4 using the develop module.
When I purchased Lightroom 5, I attempted to open the catalog I had used with Lightroom 4 and it told me it would be upgraded. I confirmed the upgrade and this is the new catalog I work with in 5. This is the catalog that does not consistently show me my develop settings from 4.
When I have upgraded Lightroom in the past, I had not run into this problem.
I do understand that I now have two separate catalogs, but in my experience, I had always thought that these settings would transfer as I did not start a new import or make a copy, all I did was upgrade the catalog.
Thanks,

Highlights and Shadows develop settings are not functions

While implementing an image-processing plugin, I learned something very interesting (to me) about the Shadows and Highlights develop settings. The other basic tone settings (exposure, contrast, saturation, etc.) always map any one color to another single color uniformly throughout the image. But the Shadows and Highlights may map a given color to multiple colors in a single image, depending on the location of the pixels.
For example, in a test image I made with Shadows = +100, pixel (824,286) had its original 16-bit color value (0, 0, 0) transformed to (1724,1387,852). Pixel (861,287) also had original color (0,0,0), but it was transformed to a much different color (3093,2688,1316).
Abstractly, the other basic tone settings are functions (any input color always has the same output color), while Shadows and Highlights are many-to-many mappings (any input color may have multiple output colors). I knew that Clarity was not a function -- the transformed value of a pixel would depend on neighboring pixels. But it never occurred to me that Shadows and Highlights weren't functions either.
Is this property of Shadows and Highlights well-known by expert users of LR? (I.e. Rob, I assume you knew of this?)

Yup - @Lr4 (PV2012) there are 3 adjustments using Adobe's new "magic" algorithm:
* Clarity
* Highlights
* Shadows
I really don't know enough to fill in much in the way of details, except to say that when you use -highlights or +shadows, it "clarifies" the highlights and/or shadows a little bit, by way of the laplace-transform based algorithm Adobe developed. Jeff Schewe has pointed us to a white-paper about it in the past, but I dunno the link.. To me, it's akin to Topaz Detail and/or Topaz Adjust's "adaptive" enhancements - two Photoshop plugins I used regularly until Lr4 came out (Adobe's algorithm is very well done - in my opinion, better than Topaz labs, or any of the others doing similar things, e.g. PhaseOne, DxO, Nikon, ..).
FWIW - this is one of the reasons some people were raising heck when Lr4 first came out - no way to brighten shadows using the basic sliders without getting the clarification effect.. That said, Eric Chan also has informed us that Lr3's fill light had a similar mathematical algorithm backing it, and so Lr4 was not new in that regard, just improved..
Rob

Include Develop settings in metadata have no effect

Hi.
I've just discovered that option in the "Catalog Settings -> Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files" have no effect.
I tested this with JPEG and TIFF inside LR 3.3 RC1, but it looks like this issue is present even in LR 2.x too.
No matter what you option is, develop settings are always included into the XMP.
I have exported the same image with this option on and off and they are binary equal except creation date in the XMP.
Develop settings are always there, no matter what you have selected in options.

This is sounding like normal behaviour. It should only apply when writing metadata back to original files.
The 'include Develop settings in XMP' checkbox dates back to the early days when ACR was just starting to be able to process rendered files. It was automatically opening any rendered files into the ACR dialog if there were Develop settings found in the metadata. The checkbox prevented those settings being written to those originals so that you could open directly into PS and bypass the dialog, and additional options have since been added to the Camera Raw preferences in Bridge/PS to allow you to use or ignore those settings too.
Once the files are being exported, there's a line in the metadata that says <crs:AlreadyApplied>True</crs:AlreadyApplied> which prevents those Develop settings being applied again.
If you want to exclude Develop settings from exported files, you can either check the 'minimize embedded metadata' checkbox in the Export dialog to remove all metadata, or use Jeffrey's Metadata Wrangler plug-in to specify which metadata to exclude.

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