Diamond Plus SLI mode?

Ok, now when I have installed all chipset drivers, I'd like to enable SLI mode. But how can I do that? I have set two GF 6800 with SLI bridge and windows find that second card, but there are no enable SLI mode anywhere.
What is the trick to do that? In manual read's only that plug two cards with bridge, nothing else.
BTW. The lower heatsink is very hot, I think. You can hardly put finger on it. Is it normal?

Quote from: mrking.id on 07-May-06, 09:43:26
I know with the vid drivers one should uninstall the old ones before intalling the new ones, but what about the nForce drivers? I've never updated them before so what is the protocol?
If you're using Nforce 2/3 you need not have to update it to the latest drivers the best drivers is Ver5.10 If you're using the Nforce4 then you've to updates it the latest drivers from Nvidia website. Of course you'll see alot of listing in the Nvidia driver and you need to select Nvidia AMD.As for the VGA you also need to updates it to the latest driver. GD luck.

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Diamond Plus SLI Mysteries starting to expose themselves.... LONG

Arg... to many shots in the dark with folks' SLI problems and the new SLI X16 getup . Probably not the power supply, nor the video cards, not the memory, nor anything else obvious. It may be those things, but after weeks of experimentation, there seem to be lots of other things to look at as well. I've discovered several things about this mobo that didnt appear obvious in the beginning.
The obscure BIOS settings seem to matter in SLI mode, not in single card mode. I think I'm starting to understand why. Also, most of the drivers that are out there from Nvidia simply suck, and the right combination has to occur for the whole thing to remain stable, especially in SLI mode. WHQL has NOTHING to do with it, which I discovered after much pain and deinstalls and reinstalls.
The board comes set up from MSI in a conservative state, not prepared for SLI, or at least balanced SLI performance. This can be witnessed in the Hypertransport settings in the Cell menu, where all NON CPU specific HT settings are 8x8 and 800Mhz. This is clearly a setting for ONE video card, as it will create an I/O imbalance between the regular SLI ASIC (now the new southbridge) and the new SPP (system platform processor in Nvidia speak) ASIC. Each of these 2 ASICs provide 20 lanes of PCI express each. Each Vid card needs a complete 16 unencumbered lanes from its respective bridge chip to function properly in SLI mode, cuz if not, then one will simply not keep up and cause corruption.
I set this up and repeated the experiments several times and found the following. It appears that for SLI to function properly, the HT settings between the Northbridge, Southbridge and CPU must be set to 1000Mhz and 16 16, in order to balance I/O thoughout the system. This makes sense as it could starve 1 of the Vid Cards for data, the one on the Southbridge most likely (methinks that this is true because of how the new Northbrige appears to be directly wired to the CPU, while the southbridge is now servicing all other I/O). This is so because the Northbridge has 1 set of 16 lane PCIE and the Southbrige has the other set of 16 lanes. This is how the SLI X16 is enabled to provide 16 full lanes to each Vid card.
If 1 of the PCIE slots is pumping I/O at a full 1Ghz, 16 bits in each direction, while the other is choked at 800Mhz and 8 bits in each direction, then there will be starvation on the second slot and the card that is in it when it comes to rendering large scale images at high speed. Makes total sense. In the networking world, its referred to as under and oversubscription.
However, in this case, it is unobvious cuz the MSI docs (asus, abit, indeed Nvidia too) all suck and don't tell us what to do or how to think about this stuff.
As far as drivers go, that is a mystery train wreck as well.
If you are basically familiar with NVidia drivers, then you know that they create all the building blocks, and then their OEMs take those building blocks and package them together to suit their needs. The binaries of the actual drivers don't change, but definitions, information and config files change, as does packaging. Thats why regardless of who provides the complete driver set, the Nvidia launcher starts at some point during the installation.
What Nvidia releases on their website will most likely work with all Nvidia products, but not necessarily well. The X16 mobo chipset has its own release, and I've noticed that some of the folks here have used the regular SLI driver set. That may not work that well, or at all, because while the southbridge is identical to the regular SLI single chip, the northbridge is brand new, and somewhere in the driver, messaging between these two has to be arbitrated. So that's the first issue.
MSI ships mobo driver version 6.82 with the Diamond Plus, but Nvidia is currently presenting 6.85 on their website. What's the difference? It seems to be just the ethernet driver if you compare the packing lists (the SMBus looks different too, but I think its a typo as MSI's appears "newer" than the Nvidia one, which is simply not likely as its a silicon device driver that would come from Nvidia )
So for all intents and purposes, the two releases are the same if you do not use the Nvidia Gigabit Ethernet adapter (which I do not, I only use the Marvell, much faster and lower CPU consumption). If you use the Nvidia GigE adapter, then there may be some kind of an upgrade here.
Now on to the Graphics drivers. Nvidia lists 81.98 as their current WHQL version. This is a BFD version WHQL means nothing really, as its a self certification in parts, and Microsoft cannot test all the components anyway, as there are zillions of driver types for windows. There are currently about 30, (yes, you read that right THIRTY) known and CURRENT graphics driver sets for NVidia GeForce graphics ASICs (chips that is). Ever hear of 82.65, 83.62, 83.40.... how about the hackers current fave 82.12. Yup there are plenty of em. Mostly OEM releases for laptops and stuff, but many of them have actual bug fixes in them, albeit you have to read through copius release notes to figure that stuff out. (wow reading, what a concept)
I had bad luck with 81.98, but 82.12 worked better, although SLI performance became half of 1 vid card (not good, suppose to go the other way ) But 83.90 is working well so far, even though its a laptop release apparently.
So the short of it is, that we are on our own with this SLI scheme as we were before. There is precious little information about X16, and most of the original SLI info is either dated, or marketing speak with little or no substance to the zillions of frustrated gamers who cannot get their stuff to work well.
Hope this info is somewhat helpful, as I pieced it together from lots of disjointed data here and there, including technical briefs, press clippings, various articles and some websites. I'd be interested if folks either agree or disagree with some of these assertions, or if you've found similar or contradicting info, as I want my system to be stable so I CAN KILL STROGG and the like

Quote from: Bas on 19-March-06, 17:56:24
Many have tried, most failed.....just because those dual-12V-PSU's stink....
Try the OCZ Powermax 520W, yes that one, it has all the connectors en a nice SINGLE 33A @ 12V....that one will do the trick just fine.
Read this stuff, it's very related http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29940
It's not the board, not the videocards, not the drivers....it's your PSU!, those multiple 12V rail ones plain don't have what it takes to handle such systems, that's the problem.
Minimum PSU Requirements from the evga website:
1. 7900gtx single - 450w psu with 22a on the 12v rail
2. 7900gtx sli - 550w psu with 34a on the 12v rail
3. 7900gt single - 400w psu with 20a on the 12v rail
4. 7900gt sli - 500w psu with 28a on the 12v rail
5. 7600gt single - 350w psu with 18a on the 12v rail
6. 7600gt sli - 450w psu with 24a on the 12v rail
Plus, the new nvidia cards require less power than the previous 7800 and 6800 series video cards. Also if you decide on an ATI card(s), they require more power than these 7900 series video cards too. There you have it in black and white directly from a video card manufacturer.
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=512-P2-N570-AX
Regarding PSUs - I have now the OCZ 520w and Tagan 480w - both are solid and heavy and the shielding looks to be made of the same material:
OCZ PS 520w - 33a on the 12v rail, adjustable 3.3v, 5v, 12v rails, blue LED bling factor - 2 shielded 6-pin vga power cables and 2 4-pin shielded hdd cables, 1 sata power cable (2 connectors) - 23dba
Tagan 480w U22 - 30a on the 12v rail, option to split into 2 12v rails, no LED bling - 2 shielded 6-pin vga power cables and 2 sata power cable (4 connectors) - 22dba
Tagan 580w U22 - 36a on the 12v rail, same features at 480w U22 - 24dba
My recommendation, if you need the bling and power, the ocz ps 520w has it. If you need more power, the tagan 580w U22 has it, if you need the least expensive psu the tagan 480w U22 is the way to go ($91) except it is not recommended for a SLI 7900gtx setup.

K8N Diamond Plus, SLI and Creative X-Fi cards, anyone running similar?

Hi there!
I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
See here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
and here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry. When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen. When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles. Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
My question is:
Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem. Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

What's going on guys.
I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
Quake 4 is the only game he's got installed so far, but he reports everything is set to their highest qualities, including resolution. He said it runs great with no anomalies. He's going to install Dawn of War and Winter Assault later I know.
Me? I haven't run into any issues with any games either, including F.E.A.R. as Hydrasworld asked. Both of our sound cards are in the Communication PCI Slot of the motherboard. My take on the OC issue is since we're using different proc's from different wafers, maybe my chip had revisions in September that the July proc my friend has didn't. Also, his heatsink has one less copper pipe I noticed. I'll still drop by for help. Good luck to you all and the only other thing I can add is try using the latest drivers for each piece of hardware you've got.
LPB
P.S. If you can and you purchased a retail version of the processor, on one of the sides of the carton insert for the processor, a date should be printed. Maybe that can explain some issues. Once more, my proc was manufactured September 15th, 2005.

K8n diamond plus sli link card

bought a open box k8n diamond plus from newegg and it didn't come with a sli link card
to go between the 2 video cards.
where can I buy one?
thanks

newegg was of no help.
I got ahold of msi and they're sending me one.
thanks.
it was a open box board that turned out to be just a board LOL.
i'm still looking for the full install of the creative software.
the drivers load but none of the base creative software is in the
msi downloads.
so digicell can't fine the creative programs.
i upgraded the bios to 1.20 and am waiting for the sli bridge
so i can put the other 7900gt ko 512meg card in.
runs good with just one, it should run even better when both are in.
thanks again.

K8N Diamond Plus chip temperatures

I do not have air conditioning, and with the arrival of summer I was having an apparent overheating problem, so I investigated further. MSI CoreCenter showed CPU and Sytsem were fine (low 50's under load). But when I started up the nVidia Monitor, my nForce chip was running high 70's.
The temperatures between CoreCenter and nVidia Monitor match well, and the nForce chip was darned hot to the touch, so I assume all the readings are reasonable.
The heat pipe appears to be working (the pipe is hot all the way up to the Zalman cooler, and there is a pretty good relationship between the System temp and the nForce temp - when nForce goes up the System temp also goes up). There is about a 28C degree difference between the System temp and the nForce temp. The little system fan on the MSI Zalman cooler modulates up and down to hold the 50C setpoint.
In summary, my system IDLES in an 30C room with:
CPU: 37C
System: 46C
nForce: 75C
That nForce temperature seems way too high to me. Anyone else notice this? Does it sound like something is wrong, or is this just the nature of the heat pipe solution on the nForce chip?
Thanks,
DJG
MSI Diamond Plus SLI x16 mobo (MS-7220?)
AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 4200+ running at 2.5GHz w/ Zalman CNPS9500 cooler
4 x Kingston HyperX 512MB ram (2 Gig total)
Dual eVGA 7800GT video cards in SLI mode w/ Zalman VF-700 CU coolers
Antec 550W True Power 2.0 power supply
Creative x-Fi sound card
Cooler Master Centurion CAC-T05 case with upgraded fans
Envision Professional Series 20" LCD @ 1600x1200

I believe there is some confusion here caused by the SLIx16 capabilities of the Diamond Plus board. Let me try to give a quick, non-technical explanation:
Back in the old days, there were three major chips on a board - the CPU, the Northbridge and the Southbridge. The Northbridge handled memory addressing and the AGP bus. The Southbridge handled most other communications (drives, serial port, etc...). Then AMD put their memory controller on the CPU chip, and the need for the Northbridge went down.
With the later nForce chips, nVidia started producing a one-chip solution. The Northbridge and the Southbridge were combined together in what became the nForce4 chip. Now there were only two major chips on the motherboard - the CPU and the combined Northbridge/Southbridge nForce chip. This was a a very popular solution, and so you saw a lot of motherboards and software and BIOS implementations that would only show two temperatures, the CPU and the SYSTEM. That's also why you only see two cooling solutions on a lot of modern motherboards, something for the CPU and that little high speed fan mounted right over another chip - the nForce.
With the release of SLIx16 nVidia had to go back to a two chipset solution. They probably ran out of pins or something, but they went back to the concept of a Northbridge (which handles one video card) and a Southbridge which handles the second video card and other communications). This is what the MSI Diamond Plus motherboard implements. So now there are three major chips on the motherboard again - the CPU, the Southbridge and the Nortbridge. But, since lots of software and BIOS implmentations altready existed that only showed only two temperatures they just stole the software and the naming. So the Southbridge chip became labeled as the System chip (and of course the CPU was still labeled as the CPU). But they have not added the Northbridge temperature to tools like CoreCenter (CoreCell?) or the BIOS.
That's also why on the Diamond Plus board you've got three heatsinks - one for the CPU, a heatsink with a heatpipe (the low profile chip underneath the video cards, with that stamped silver MSI label on it) for the Northbirdge nForce chip, and a Zalman copper heat exchanger over the System (Southbridge) chip.
The nVidia nTune version 5+ tool will reveal all three temperatures - the CPU, the System (Southbridge) and the nForce (Northbridge).
This thread is about the temperature of the Northbridge chip. Again, the standard tools of CoreCenter and BIOS do NOT show its temperature. But the nTune 5+ version does. On my board, both the CPU and the System (Southbridge) chips are running perfectly acceptable temperatures. But the nForce (Northbridge) chip is idling in the 70C+ range.
I'm trying to see if other people's Diamond Plus board are also seeing those temperatures. If you do not have a Diamond Plus board, this may not make much sense. But it is something I am worried about.
Thanks, and hope this helps clear up any confusion.
DJG

K8N Diamond Plus... Lots o Crashes, and other wierdness

Well, gotta new build here. Ran fast and hard from an Abit A8N SLI that was never stable, after 5 months of tinkering.
Moved to the Diamond Plus SLI X16. Never had an MSI before, but had lots of the others (Asus, Epox, Abit, ECS, PCChips, etc) and am so far pretty happy.
However, there are some strange things happening as I iron out the bugs.
No BSODs fortunately yet to speak of, but plenty o crashes when exiting FarCry, Quake etc. Never during the game, but when I exit it blows up. Also, lots of graphics distortion, which I never had before.
The thing'll run Prime stable for hours with stock settings for everything plus OCZ mem settings specifically for this mobo (1T).
But the crashing while exiting is wierd. The windows dump file has no reference to drivers or anything else, niether does the event viewer, so I have no leads, especially as I'm not that experienced in this Mobo yet.
I have the latest Nforce and Geforce drivers. The thing is pretty stable, but gets a little wierded out in games.
Ideas greatly welcomed, no matter how hairbrained (but please don't tell me its my power supply )

Nanohead,
First off this is not criticism, but the Diamond Plus uses AMD Hyper Transport Technology more than any MB I seen, there may be high end severs that use it more, but I am not into that.
If you are going to be OC, the Diamond Plus you are going to have known something, a lot, about HT or you MB is going to be unstable.
The lay out of the BIOS HT parameters may not be prefect, but it is not bad for a companies first draft and that is what its.
With HT the timing and bandwidth between Processor, Northbridge and Southbridge is all variable in word length and clock speed. If you do not have them all set correctly you reduce system stably and throughput.
Because to be the maximum performance out of the system yon not only have to tune FSB, Memory Clock and all memory parameters. You are now PCI Express Bus parameters and HT parameters tune. You will notice I did not say adjust, they now need to be tuned, because they all have to be running just the right data rate or you will get corrupted data. Anyone of the subsystems now running to slow or to fast can crash the system.
And right now the Diamond Plus is stall a mix of old and new Technologies and everything has to be tuned manually or just leave it a factory default values, which will not be the fastest the system will run, but it hopefully will be the most stable.
The days of just cranking up the clocks to OC your compute are over.
Roger
When submitting a problem, include a complete list of your system components; include part numbers, all Power Supply Voltages, and their output ratings. It is almost impossible to estimate what your problem is without knowing something about it.

Changing from K8n neo4 SLI Platinum to a K8n Diamond Plus

Is it a or to try and just change components and everything over and hope it boots up or get some help here in the forum for my answer? I am perplexed , one techie says it probably will need formatting and reinstall :biggthumbsdown:and yet another says tht they are both nf4 chipsets and should be able to boot up . What do you all think will work for me ? Maybe one of you has a solutin for me that is better than formatting and reinstall. Thanks for your help

Quote from: limpet on 08-July-06, 08:43:56
yeah , the platinum won't give me 16 x video with the sli switch card in non-sli mode.
that's strange, it is the second time that i've seen this problem on the forum, but i never had any problems with mine. however, i thougth that you were going for the extra memory voltages that the diamond plus can provide, because today's graphic cards are still far away from taking up even the 8x pci-e bandwidth. but if you got a good deal, go for it. both of them are excellent mobos.
you probably won't need a clean system install, but i would suggest that you do it anyway. unloading old drivers and replacing them with new ones will always cause the system to slow down, even if you won't notice. that's why, for a new build, it is always suggested that you go with a clean OS install.

K8N Diamond Plus and SLI

I have the Diamond Plus MB with (2) MSI NX7900GTX-T2D512E Graphic cards and the SLI bridge connecting them. Everything runs great until I enable the SLI in the NVidia display properties. I check the box and as soon as I hit the apply or ok button my system reboots. When I check the display properties after reboot the box is unchecked. Graphics driver is ver 84.43 I really expected the cards to work great with the MSI MB, but so far that's not the case. Any Ideas?

^ Echo the power-supply response. I'm not sure what the specs on your PSU are, but you might want to check it. If it's dual-rail, then you could be having a problem. Random reboots when graphics are involved usually means PSU.
Also make sure your PCI-E connector on your motherboard has power. There's a 4-pin connector on the upper-left of your first PCI-E x 16 slot that needs power if running dual graphics. Check your motherboard manual if you're not sure which one it is.
Go here: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone2_build.html
.. for a list of compatible power supplies for your setup. I'm running a Silverstone Zeus ST56ZF which is one of the few PSU's certified for SLI 7900GTX's, even though I'm running a single 7900GTX, so I can overclock the CPU and GTX all I want.

ATTN K8N Diamond Plus Users - SLI problem

i need help diagnosing a problem:
i installed this board last night, transplanted my a64 4000+ along with 2 7800gt's and a brand new antec 550w psu. i did the live update bios flash (dont recall what version i am running now) got my e/n and audio drivers in place etc.
when i enable sli, the machine freezes when i fire up a game. both cards are plugged in properly, i tried swapping the slots they were sitting in, i tested both cards individually and they are good, i reversed the sli bridge just in case, reverted to fail safes in the bios,
i cannot play games in sli mode, in single card mode i can (I THINK... i am afraid this might be a heat issue, but i put plenty of fresh arctic silver on my proc, FEAR seems to freeze regardless if i am running sli or not..i will have to double check when i get home from work)
has anyone experienced anything similar? i am running fresh drivers and this is my first sli build so maybe i am missing something... i have been racking my brain for the last 12 hours, i dont think its the ram, could it be the northbridge chipset driver? i installed the one off the disc, but i didnt check the site for a newer one...
thank you so much for your time.

Quote from: kakarocht on 08-February-06, 13:58:02
Do not used liveupdate to flash the bios. Used from the program files itself. Refer from my sig on the flashing the bios. BTW create your own sig and gives more details about your peripherals and psu in details. What my concern is your PSU problems. Could you gives more details your PSU? Have you tried to install new drivers from NVIDIA??
the psu is a brand new antec 'true power 2.0' unit that i bought from newegg...in bios the 12v rail is showing 12.3 which might be a little bit high...but it is stable for what its worth...
here is my setup, i will create a sig shortly:
2gb PQI ram DDR400 running at stock speeds, not sure of the latency but i am thinking cas2
A64 4000+ Clawhammer proc running at stock 2.4ghz speed, 1mb cache
MSI K8N diamond+
dual 120gb maxtors
sony dual layer 16x dvd
stock cpu fan.
shitloads of AS7
another curious fact:
since the upgrade FEAR doesnt want to work at all... DOOM and COD2 both work in single card mode...but FEAR will freeze on me mere seconds after the first map loads...
i dont know what the culprit is...but i bet im gonna kick myself when i find out...
im gonna go re flash my bios now...
thanks for the input, its always greatly appreciated.

2x16 SLI Diamond Plus - Read Review Here

Just saw this little tidbit of info on the new Diamond Plus 2x16 board...
Haven't read it all yet, but seeing "Most Overclockable Product Award" on top of the review looks good
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=1787

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Haven't read it all yet,
Do it the british lads way start from back (sports pages )
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Conclusion
First off, let us say that the K8N Diamond Plus is an excellent feature-rich, enthusiast motherboard. As the successor to the K8N Diamond, we had expected nothing less from MSI. However, therein lies a fundamental problem with the motherboard. It is all too similar to the K8N Diamond. In terms of features, the exact same VIA FireWire, Marvel Ethernet and Silicon Image controllers have been used. Even the updated Audigy SE audio onboard is nothing but a re-hash of the Live! 24-bit, using the same DSP,ADC and DAC ships as well. Sure, the Audigy SE carries a better signal-to-noise ratio, but when put in a gaming environment, we don't think it would be noticeable over the din of rocket launchers, fireballs and napalm explosions.
Even when it comes down to performance, the K8N Diamond Plus matches the K8N Diamond to a tee
Hardly sounds inspirational

Any News (MSI) P6N Diamond (680i) SLI Motherboard

Any one know about the release of (MSI) P6N Diamond (680i) SLI Motherboard

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honestly, if it's not for SLI, I think I'll wait for ATI, ops, AMD RD600 chipset mobo instead.
I complete agree with that. Just getting bored with the Opteron system. I have an insider I am getting a e6600 from for 1/2 price this week, so I was looking at boards. Think I want to try the 680i over the 975, and while the RD600 looks like it will be a winner it's still a ways out.
MSI had stated end of December for the P6N and that time is upon us.
Honestly after the last purchase I swore I would never buy another MSI, but I kind of crave pain that way, after about a year of mods on this current board, and emails with the MSI BIOS crew I think the K8N SLI was the 2nd best Nforce 4 board made out there. Plus it gives me another forum area to read here beside the Nvidia, and overclocking sections.

New K8N diamond plus questions please help.

Hi all well i am new to this msi site and am thinking of buying the new MSI K8N Diamond plus motherboard, the problem i have is that i have been a fan of ASUS and have had there last 3 SLI motherboards of which i have not been happy with.
Well i am totaly into overclocking and have an Opteron 165, balistix ram, 600w Enermax PSU, 2x Gainward 6800gt's,
what i am looking for is a motherboard that does what i says it will do, yes the asus a8n32 was a great motherboard but has a limitation on the voltage if useing the new E4-E6 stepping cores of which would only give a max voltage of 1.58v of which the asus spec said 1.76v.
What i am asking you chaps is is this a great motherboard, can you play with all the coms settings without any limitation, or do you think that the DFI motherboard is better.
If you can let me have some info on this motherboard that would be great, as i can not seam to get any reply from MSI about some information.
what i am looking for is what is the max CPU voltage and is there any limitation on it for some chips.
what is the max voltage for the ram
what is the max voltage for the chipset.
any help on this would be great.

Quote from: Stick on 23-February-06, 17:46:08
there is no mobo that alows 4V for the memory. i think the DFI goes up to 3.4V and you can use a DDR Booster to get to 3.8V. the only mobo that is capable to pass 3.3V is the DFI since you can have the choice to select from which rail the memory will be powered (the 3.3V or the 5V). you don't have that option in any other mobo.
Hi thanks for the mail but i have just copied this from msi about this motherboard, see below.
1.Adjust CPU FSB Frequency:
You can adjust the desired "CPU FSB Frequency" by using "+,-" key. The default value of AMD Athlon™64 is 200MHz. The maximum value is 450MHz.
2.AMD Overclocking Configuration (CPU Ratio):
If the CPU is Athlon™64 FX series, the ratio range is from 4 to 25.
If the CPU is Athlon™64 series, the ratio should be set according to its model number. For example, the ratio range of 3000+ is from 4 to 9, and the 3200+ is from 4 to 10.
3.Adjust Extra CPU Voltage:
This is for adjusting CPU voltage while overclocking. Following the CPU default value, the maximum is 1.8V. The interval is 0.05V.
4.Adjust DDR Memory frequency:
The Memclock is the major part which has four different frequencies to match many kinds overclocking memory modules. The memory frequency settings includes DRAM/FSB=1/2, 2/3, 5/6, 1/1.
5.DDR Memory Voltage:
This is for adjusting memory voltage while overclocking. K8N Diamond Plus has a special design.We use jump to distinguish two level arrangement of voltage. In this way it can get maximum 4.1V for overclocking modules. As you can see the below pictures, the left one is the standard mode when jump hat is located at the top postion. The default value is 2.5V, and the maximum is 3.2V. The interval is 0.05V. As the right one, it is overclocking mode when jump hat is located at the under postion. The default value is 3.2V, and the maximum is 4.1V. The interval is 0.05V.
What i am asking is there any limitation on the cpu voltage like the asus a8n32 as this had a max voltage of 1.58v due to it having a limit put on it by recomendation of amd.

Diamond Plus Crackling Sound issue

i noticed that the diamond plus's sound chip (the audigy, that is) is directly next to the 2nd pci-ex slot, i am running dual 7900gtx for sli and when i play some games like chaos theory or FEAR, after a while the audio begins to cackle.
this sucks.
could it be heat from the vid card? my box is ghetto, it is laying on its side with the cover off... i am not overclocking anything at the moment, by the way.
just wondering if anyone else experiences this...i think when i get home i am gonna switch to single card mode and see if the problem persists.

Quote from: meta_sin on 19-April-06, 02:36:46
i cant help but wonder if a pci solution would fare any better?
if push comes to shove, thats what i'll be doing.
I'd do an Audigy ZS at minimum - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102178
Or if you want to splurge, the X-Fi - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102188
Even the ZS will blow away that onboard SE, which isn't much more than a hopped-up Live! chip. Not to mention getting the sound HW off the board itself does help interference wise.
Edit - BTW with whatever you decide, use the latest drivers from the Creative Website. Get the drivers only, ones that ship in the box are almost always crap. Especially in the case of the ZS (& prob the onboard too). Avoid their "bloatware" apps at all costs.

My Diamond Plus has issues

1. Can enable SLI using the 6600GT tab in video properties. Once enabled it can''t be disabled.
The computer reboots every time the 6600GT tab is clicked on and an error message is
displayed that the computer has recovered from a serious error. Have to reinstall the video
driver to disable it. Tried all the various drivers with the same result. Doesn't do this with my
Asus A8N-SLI board.
2. My Kingston KHX4000/R512 memory runs fine, but my new Geil Ultre X 2-2-5-2 1GB
kit only runs at DDR333. Various lookups and reboots at DDR400 no matter what timings.
Board seems memmory sensitive.
3. IDE channel doesn't behave right. Can disable dual IDE channel but when try to enable it again
the computer just reboots with the critical error message again. Again it doesn't do it with
the Asus board. have to enter safe mode and restore with a previous date.
Reasons I brought the Diamond plus.
1. Liked the northbridge cooler. The Asus fan has a known issue and is prone to failure.
2. SLI swiching is done by software and not like Asus hardware but it doesn't seem to work.
3. Thought the 16 channel SLI would be better than the 8 Channel but was wrong. Maybe it will be
in time.
4. Asus support doesn't exist.
Tested video using the F.E.A.R. game performance test.
1. On a 6600GT SLI setup there is a big jump in the maximum FPS. Was from 40 to 155 but
little difference on minimum FPS. Single 7800GT was only 105 max FPS but was 25 at minimum.
2. The results were about the same on the Asus A8N-SLI and MSI K8N Diamond Plus.
3. The only difference I see between using two cards on the Asus (8channel from each card) and
MSI(16 channel from each card) was the minimum FPS. Just a small improvement in the
minimum FPS. Eliminated by using the 7800GT.
I probably have to back to the Asus board until I find out want is wrong. I really like the MSI
over the Asus. Maybe a new bios or drive update will solve my problems.

I don't overclock. Fixed the issue with disableing dual IDE channel with foreware 16 6.85 which came out 2/2/2006.
still can't disable SLI through video properties without the computer rebooting with windows giving the recovered from a serious error message and remains with SLI still enabled.

K8N Diamond Plus memory issue

Hi all,
Just replaced my ASUS A8N32-SLi Deluxe with the above board (what an excellent choice, glad to be back on MSI!).
Anyway - my problem is this:
When inserting two x 1GB double-sided PC3200 modules, the BIOS auto detects the memory as DDR333 rather than the DDR400 it should be. Removing one stick immediately fixes the problem, and shows up as DDR400.
The memory is Micron - MT16VDDT12864AY
Now I noticed that these sticks are on the compatibility list, but with one slight problem - the ones listed show the last 4 digits differently, but how different can they be?
Any suggestions would be most welcome, I need my extra GB of memory back!
Rgds,
czrsiNk

Quote from: Stick on 09-February-06, 16:48:02
once again, it is not a mobo issue since the memory controller is on the CPU. What kind of CPU are you using? Did you place your memory in slots 1&2 (green and purple)? what are the memory timings and voltages that you are using in BIOS?
Hello Stick, My new PC with a diamond plus mobo should arrive tomorrow (see signature for rest of bits). Over the last few weeks I've read most of what has been written here on this mobo. You have on a number of occasins commented that the memory problem, if it is a problem, is CPU related which must be true in the strictest sense but surely the mobo configuration and control systems must also play a part? If this were not the cae then would not other forums be commenting on similar memory problems with AMD 64 CPUs? If that is correct then the solution lies with MSI.
By the way, I make these comments to you because you appear to have consierable experience with MSI boards and I hope will shed more light on the issue rather than confuse.
Talking of confusion, I tried to banish that from my mind by downloading the PDF manual for the diamond plus. Its states that double-sided memory will only run in dual channel mode if 2 separate DImm channels are used (assuming you only have 2 sticks). Channel A is on Dimm1 and 3, Channel B is on Dimm2 and 4 - therefore, and the manual makes this clear, if you have two sticks the choice is to put the sticks in DIMM1 and 2, or, DIMM3 and 4. There are no other choices! Putting sticks in DIMM1 and 3 will not enable dual-channel and the result is DDR333.
But, the manual might be wrong, I might not understand it correctly - both?
Bottom line - I'm confused and doubtful about exactly where the sticks should go. I think I have it right above.
Dear Stick, please jot down a few lines indicating what you believe the correct solution is for two sticks of double-sided memory running dual-channel at DDR400.
Thanks very much, Tanimbar

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