Diff client depandent and client independent
HI,
what is different between client dependent and client independent.Please explain...
gaurav mittal
client dependent is when u make some configuration which will effect all the clients.. i mean changes are reflected in all clients
for eg access sequence,
client independent is when u make any changes in some client it will reflect in particular client in which u r working
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What exactly is the diff between client dependant and client independant te
Hi gurus,
What is the diff between client independant and client dependant term.. I initially had a confusion related to client independant and client dependant Transport requests, where else are these words applicable, do they apply to data as well, if so how? any links to help me understand the difference..
regards,
kishoreHi Kishore,
Client Independant: These objects are not specific to any client. And it is universal which can be viewed,changed across the clients.
Client Dependant: These are the objects can be viewed, changed for the client for which it has been assigned. Other clients do not have access on these objects.
In SAP, all objects are finally stored as tables. "Mandt" is key field which determines whether the object is client dependant or not.
Client Independant transport requests will make the transported objects available across the clients. and Client dependent transport request make the objects available only for the client mentioned by field "Mandt"
Regards,
Dinesh D -
Client dependent and client independent in ALE
I am going through pdf learning of an ALE scenario,i couldnot get wat is meant by client Independent and client dependent.
How can i conclude
Create message type (WE81){color:green} Client independent {color}
To create a new message type, follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction WE81 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> Create logical message type)
u2022 Choose Create logical message type by double clicking on it
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to add a new type
u2022 Enter the required message type, in our case it is ZINVRV and an appropriate description
u2022 Save and exit.
Your message type has now been created. The next step will be to link it to the IDoc.
2.2.1. Link message to IDoc type (WE82 & BD69) {color:green} Client independent {color}
To link the message type to the IDoc type follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction WE82 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> EDI: Message Types and Assignment to IDoc Types)
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to create the link
u2022 Enter the message type ZINVRV and the BasicIDoc type as ZINVRV01
u2022 Save and exit
u2022 Enter transaction BD69 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> Assign message type to IDoc for ALE)
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to create the link
u2022 Enter the message type ZINVRV and the BasicIDoc type as ZINVRV01
u2022 Save and exit
Your IDoc is now linked to your message type. We still need to link object types and add the message to the model before we can use the message.
2.2.2. Maintain object type for message type (BD59) Client independent
The ALE objects are used to create links between IDocs and applications objects, to control the serialisation, to filter messages in the customer model and to use listings.
For our own message type and IDoc you must maintain object types for the links.
If you want to check the serialisation for the message type, then you must maintain object types for the serialisation. If no serialisation object has been maintained for a given message type, then the serialisation will not be checked for this message type.
To add an object type to our message type, follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction BD59 (ALE -> Extensions -> ALE object maintenance -> Maintain object types)
DOC NAME: ALE_SCENARIO_DEVELOPMENT_PROCEDURE
Version 1 Page 6 of 16
ALE Scenario Development Guide
u2022 Type in your message type ZINVRV and press enter
u2022 Click on New entries
u2022 Enter your object type, LIFNR (We need to use the vendor as a filter object), the segment name where LIFNR resides, Z1INVRV, a number 1 for the sequence followed by the actual field name LIFNR
u2022 Save and exit.
You have now created an object that weu2019ll use as a filter object in the customer model to direct the flow of messages to the various logical systems based on the vendors in the filter of the message type ZINVRV.
We now need to add our new message type to the distribution model.
2.3. Configuring the Distribution Model
This task is performed on your ALE reference client.
2.3.1. Manual Configuration (BD64) {color:green} Client dependent {color}
To manually configure the customer distribution model, read the ALE configuration procedure, and follow these steps:
u2022 Perform the Maintain customer distribution model directly function. (ALE -> Distribution customer model -> Maintain customer distribution model directly)
u2022 Specify the customer model you want to maintain and the logical system that is to be the sender of the messages OR create a new model. (Create model ALE with logical system ALELS1C400)
u2022 Choose the receiving systems to which the sending system must forward message type ZINVRV to.
u2022 For each receiving logical system allocate the message type necessary for communication to the receiving systems as per ALE configuration procedure.
u2022 Create filter objects (in our case LIFNR as the object type with the associated vendor number, 0000018001 with leading zeros, in the object area) for the message types.
u2022 Save the entries.
Refer my query within color:green
Edited by: aditya sharma on Jul 14, 2010 12:57 PM
Edited by: aditya sharma on Jul 14, 2010 1:01 PMA client is an independent business unit within an R/3 System, Data in the R/3 are classified as cleint-Dependent and client-independent.
Client-independent data such as ABAP Programs, R/3 repository objects throught the entire system. Other data is client-dependent. meaning, it can be viewed from one client. Cleint-dependent data includes customizing application and user data.
Eg.
Scripts are client dependent, means the changes done to SAP scripts in particular client will not be reflected in other client.
Smartforms are client independent, means changes done in one client will be reflected in all the clients.
Server : ECC6
Client : 100 , 200 , 300 , 400
Now suppose you have developed report in DV server client 100.
Then you will be able to see that in all clients.
Hence this is called as client independent. You can change anywhere and changes will be reflected to all ...
Now suppose you have developed a script in DV client 100.
You will not be able to see that in client 200 or 300 or 400 unless ytou copy that from client since it is client dependent. -
Which are client independent and dependent objects in SAP ABAP
which are client independent and dependent objects in SAP ABAP
Hello Jagrut
A special kind of objects are client-<u>dependent </u>repository objects. These objects have to be treated specially in the way that they have to be imported into their specific target client. In contrast, client-independent repository objects can be imported into any client.
The following list shows the client-dependent repository objects:
LIMU FSEL Field Selection
LIMU VARI Report Program System Variant
R3TR COC1 CO: Cost Centers
R3TR COC2 CO: Activity Types
R3TR FORM SAPscript form
R3TR LODS HRDSYS: Logical information object client-dep. table E SYST
R3TR PCYS HR: Transport standard personnel calculation rules
R3TR PHDS HRDSYS: physical information object client-dep. table E SYST
R3TR SBNL Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR SBNP Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR SBNR BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR SBPL Logical Information Object for BDS: Bid Invitation
R3TR SBPP Physical Information Object for BDS
R3TR SBPR BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR SBRL Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR SBRP Physical Information Object
R3TR SBRR BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR SBSL Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR SBSP Physical Information Object
R3TR SBSR BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR SBTL Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR SBTP Physical Information Object
R3TR SBTR BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR SBWL Logical information object for BDS
R3TR SBWP Logical information object for BDS
R3TR SBWR BDS: Relationship between information objects
R3TR SRHL SRM: Hierarchical Lists
R3TR SRLD Language-Dependent Client-Specific Retrieval Index Objekt
R3TR STYL SAPscript Style
Regards
Uwe -
Client dependent objects and client independent objects
Hi Experts,
Is there a way to find which objects are client dependent and which are client independent? Recently, I changed a small GUI settings in testing client and the changes were happened in production also automatically without a transport request, how can it be possible?
How can I identify similar other objects changing whom it impacts other client w/o a transport request?
Kindly share your views on it.
Thanks a lot..
Regards
SaurabhJust small correction to Rahul answer - tables with field defined as data element MANDT are client dependent.
Usualy that field will not be shown in SE16 and SE16N transactions but you will find it's definition in table definition in SE11 - ABAP Dictionary Maintenance transaction, content of this field is visible when clicking on icon
Br,
Mario -
Client independent and dependent tables
Hi,
Is there any report or program to get list of all client independent and dependent tables from a client in sap ECC6.0 ?Check the table DD02L and the field CLIDEP. If its set as X they are client dependent tables else client independent tables.
Vikranth -
Client independent and dependent transport request
Hi
I have a list of transport requests, I need to find which is a client independent and which is client dependent request.
I am aware that workbench req is client independent and customizing req is client dependent.
But i think i need to look someting else also, please help
RegardsVery interesting!
As we all know that customizing requests are always client dependent, the question obviously target workbench requests.
To my knowledge tables are always cross-client, but their contents are not necessarily.
As one can put table -contents- into a workbench request as well, this one would thus be client dependent. Same applies e.g. for forms.
But E070* does not give any information about the transport contents.
E071* however states the objects included, but not if those are client dependent or not.
How are table -contents- and forms reflected in E071* ? Can I filter for those somehow?
Thanks
Christoph -
If custom programs, reports and FM are client independent
Hi,
If custom programs, reports and FM are client independent why we need to transport them and why they are not visible in other clients............
Thanks,
TanmayaYes Tanmaya you are right,
Say You DI2 system & you have 410, 420 ,430 clients in it, then these objects will be visible in all these clients.
say you have DI4 system 410, 420, 430 clients so you have to transport them to DI4 & to other sytems also like QD1, PD1 etc.
Hope this clears your doubt.
Close the thread if this solves your query.
Regards
Abhii -
Difference between client dependent table and client independent table
hi all,
i m new in sap pls tell me the difference between client dependent table and client independent table.
tell me in detail.
thanks and regards
vikas sainiHI
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
What is client dependent and Client Independent
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/forums -
. What is the client concept in SAP? What is the meaning of client independ
hi,
send me replayHi ,
since u r maintaining different clients in da same server ,
so ,
tables needs to have diff data for diff client.....
now if u dont make tables client dependent then , same table data will be used by all clients ...
But all clients have their own diff data ,
So making a table client depedent , u r using same database table, to store data of different clients.
for more information:
A client is a logical division of data within an SAP system. Some things, like application data are mostly client-dependent, meaning that for example, a G/L account defined in client 123 of system ABC is only visible in that client. Therefore if you logon to client 456 of system ABC you will not be seeing the same database entity (if it is defined at all).
At a technical level, client dependent data simply resides in database tables that have the client number as a key field (typically the first key field).
Multiple clients within an SAP system are often used in development, testing and training systems - so that individuals can work in the same system (on the same codeset) but in isolation of each other.
Very rarely will a production system have multiples clients (ignoring the internal SAP clients like 000 and 066). -
Client Independent Authorizations
Hi,
I would like to know, whether there are any ways in performing authorizations checks, irrespective of clients.
I have a scenario where only 1 user, say USER01 in client 100 should be authorized to view, execute, change certain programs and other data dictionary objects in the client 100. All other users in this client 100, should be authorized only to execute the program and not to view any of the programs and dictionary objects.
This should not be the case with any other user of the other clients of the server.They should not have any rights over these specified objects.
Kindly help me out with a solution for the same.
VenkatHi,
The authorizations are client independent. Whatever auth objects that you create and assign to the users in a client will NOT reflect in other clients. In fact the users are also client dependent. Having access to one client, does not guarantee access to other clients.
This is the defaul functionality.
regards,
Ravi
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Smartform text modules client independent...
Hi Guys,
Are smartform text modules also client independent ?
If I do some change in text modules in one client its not getting reflected in other. Can someone tell me why ?
Thanks.
Tushar.Hi Tushar,
As Phani and Rich mentioned Text module are client dependent similar to smartforms. You have to transport from one client to another.
Lanka -
Client dependent & client independent objects
Hi All,
What is meant by client independent & client dependent ?
I know that sapscripts are client dependent while smartfiorms are client independent. Also reports & FMs are client independent.
Want to have a better idea on this concept....
Thanks in advance..
SwetaIf you create a table in 010 client in DEV server with CLNT as its first fields type, then you will find that table structure in all clients in DEV server. (i.e client independent)
example: function module, abap program, smart form.
If you create a record in that table in 010 client, you will not find that record in other clients. (i.e client dependent)
Example: script.
Sap script was developed a long back.
smartform is developed to avoid these type of some restrictions
Also:
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
MANDT is the field which differenciates the table from Client Dependent and Client Independent Tables.
All the Scripts are Client Dependent Objects
Smart Forms, Function Modules are Client Independent Objects. -
What is the client concept in SAP? What is the meaning of client independent?
HI
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-introduction.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/general/what-is-sap--landscape.htm
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
In commercial, organizational, and technical terms, a self-contained unit in an SAP system with separate master records and its own set of tables.
There are different meanings.
Functionality point of View CLIENT is the highest hierarchial Orgn entity in any module
Clients again are different from each box/system like DEV,Quality and PRD.
Generally we create more clients in DEV system one for technical and other for sandbox and other for Customization etc.
This is a Mandatory field in all tables.
Each client has its own set of Application,master,data. Hence we need to populate data for each clinet separatly.(I think you cant say "implementing the SAP for the client")
Client Independant: These objects are not specific to any client. And it is universal which can be viewed,changed across the clients.
Client Dependant: These are the objects can be viewed, changed for the client for which it has been assigned. Other clients do not have access on these objects.
In SAP, all objects are finally stored as tables. "Mandt" is key field which determines whether the object is client dependant or not.
Client Independant transport requests will make the transported objects available across the clients. and Client dependent transport request make the objects available only for the client mentioned by field "Mandt"
look here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b7/8a9a3aaf894871e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Client Independent(cross client) objects can be accessed from any client without transporting. For example, Reports and smartforms are client independent that means if you create a report or smartform in one client, this report and smartform can be viewed in another client without transporting.
Where as client dependent objects can be viewed or accessed only in the client in which you create them.
All scripts are client dependent and some tables are client dependent.
There are two types of objects in SAP, client dependent and client independent. Objects used in several clients are called client independent while objects used in a specific client is called client dependent. To identify if a table is client dependent, one can use tcodes SE11 or SE12. In the table field attributes, if the MANDT field is present that table is client dependent.
Almost all the programs and database objects are client independent.
Only the data in Database tables are client dependent.
Go through the below PDF file, it is having 4 pages which explains why SAP has Client independent and Client dependant..
http://www.sappoint.com/basis/clntadm.pdf#search=%22ABAP%20%2B%20client%20independent%20and%20client%20dependant%20%22
Create client????
Goto Tcode su01,
Client 810
Give user name sap*
password:06071992.
presss continue.
In the next screen :
User: Sapuser
Press creat buttom in the application tool bar ,
In address tabstrip : give ur name last name and first name ,
click on logon data: here u give the initial password, suppose password is = nihar
click on profile give : SAP_ALL
SAP_NEW
Press save buttom .
Now ur client 810 created
Goto the SAP EASY Access Screen
Give client : 810
User: sapuser
password: nihar
press enter
Again system will ask for final password.
Give here exiting password: nihar
new password: india.
check this
needed very urgently: ABAP real time questions and answers
check the below link u will find lot of info..
https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=1815764&messageID=1967306 -
Client Independent & client dependent tables
Hello,
Can anyone please tell me what is client dependent and client independent tables?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
SriniIn SAP, highest level of organisation structure is client which you are entering at the time of log-in itself.
In most of the tables are client dependant where first column is client (MANDT) by default and entry in that field is complusory. so that is client dependant table.
There are few tables which are client independents, effect of any change in this table will affect all the clients. In that table client field is not there.
Whenever you making any change in value of such table, system will give you message that "this is client independance, whether you want to change it".
Hope it is clear.
Regards,
Vinod
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