Difference betn 161-122

what is Difference betn 161 and 122 movement type
Nikhil

Hi,
I think the main difference is between return to vendor via 122 and 161 is that
- in case of mvt 122 you post the GI with reference to the PO (directly to the material document(GR) and thus to the PO)
- in case of mvt 161 you have to create a new PO / new PO item and you post the goods issue with reference to that.
So, if you use mvt 122 the return goods movement will be linked to the original PO item. If you decide to use mvt 161 there will be no connection with the original PO item.
If you booked IR for the PO item and you do not want to cancel it, you should use mvt 161 return process (in case of GR-Based IV).
Please visit SAP online help.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/a5/63341243a211d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/a5/63351643a211d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
I think this is the most important when you compare the two methodes.
I do not agree with Mr R.B. that 161 is "planned" and 122 is not "planned" - the same decision making process may be behind both scenario. Of course, there is difference between the processes from MRP ponit of view, maybe in this sense we can call mvt 161 as "planned" (even though it can be the result of an ad hoc decision...).
Regards,
Csaba

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