Difference between K8T Neo-FIS2R & FSR

Might be a daft question but whats the difference between K8T Neo-FIS2R and K8T Neo-FSR????

I though the SAME thing But was told Otherwise by a Mod. Because with the PENTIUM Based Boards "2" Does Mean Two Different Types of RAID Not JUST the Difference in the Southbridge and the Onboard Controller, Because the (2) in the i875PE-FIS2R means that Both the ICH5-R and And the Promise Controller support BOTH S-ATA RAID, and P-ATA IDE RAID, as there is a P-ATA IDE Controller on The Onboard Promise Chip also, as it is IDE-3 .....So I Imagine we are BOTH Correct, But this WILL Teach me to Open my Mouth in the AMD Side of the Forum ...Just Kidding......Sean

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K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR no POST

I have a K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR (MS-6702) which is, along with all my other components (I'll list them later), over a year old. It has been running just fine until the other day. I have not modified any hardware or BIOS-settings recently.
The day before yesterday my speakers put out a high-pitched shriek and the screen turned black. I then turned off the computer (it seemed to still be running, fans spinning). As I switched it on it let forth 8 beeps followed by a paus, and then 8 beeps again, over and over. I switched the graphics card for another one, no difference.
I then left it turned off for a few minutes. Then I booted it up again, and voila, it worked fine. Then after a few minutes it died the same way, and when I rebooted it it started beeping again.
Switching graphics card doesn't help. I powered it on without a graphics card plugged in. Then it made 8 beeps, and then silence. The cycle was not repeated, as it was when the card was in.
I then used another motherboard, another CPU and other RAM, same graphicscard and harddrive, and it boots into Windows just fine and seems to be quite stable for the day I've tried it.
I then switch back to the K8T-motherboard with it's CPU and RAM (still same graphicscard and harddrive as the other one), and it boots fine. After almost an hour it dies again. On boot, beeps. Wait a few minutes, boots again, then dies. Beeps next time. Etc.
The 8 beeps apparently mean there is a problem with the video card. I have tested two video cards that both work fine on another motherboard, no difference.
Because it dies after a while when it has rested, I suspect some sort of overheating issue. I put a bigass fan blowing at the motherboard and video card but that didn't seem to do anything. The fan on the video card is clean.
I have hooked up the D-Bracket 2 that accompanied the motherboard. It has some lights flashing depending on what is going on, and it halts on "Early Chipset Initialization", which is phase 2 of 16 (1st being "System Power ON"). When I press the power button, the LEDs on my memory sticks flash for a few seconds (showing activity), and the D-Bracket lights up. Then the memory-LEDs go to rest (inactivity), and the D-Bracket halts. Fans keep spinning but there is no life. No beeps.
After leaving the computer off for the night, I cleared the CMOS. The computer booted and ran fine for a couple of hours, then it suddenly made a noise in the speakers, and the monitor went black. Fans still spinning. The little light at the monitor indicating that it is turned on was flashing, as it does when the computer is off and the monitor is on.
This is the hardware in my system at the moment. I have removed plenty of stuff to rule out other components but even with just this it won't work. No mouse, keyboard or other drives attached, just this.
CPU: Athlon64 3200+
Memory: Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO DDR
Power: Thermaltake Purepower Butterfly 480W W0020
Output: +5V (35A), +3.3V (28A), +12V (17A), -5V (0.3A), -12V (0.8A)
Graphics: Gainward GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB GDDR3 AGP8X, "Ultra/2600 Golden S",
Motherboard: K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR (MS-6702)
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda IV ATA 7200 RPM
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 957p
Any ideas, suggestions or questions? I am stumped.

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I have removed plenty of stuff to rule out other components but even with just this it won't work.
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Graphics: Gainward GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB GDDR3 AGP8X, "Ultra/2600 Golden S",
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+12V (17A),
If your graphics card is like mine (see sig) with two power connections at the back you may have stressed the PSU over the last year to it's final end. Borrow or buy another PSU with at least 24 amp on the 12v supply. Your current PSU with only 17 12v amps was bound to fail. Especially since you state you had other hardware at one time. CPU Graphics card, case fanes and drives are all calling on the 12v rail to power them and your PSU just might not have it any more to do the job and the highest draw is at startup.
Try another PSU.

K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR (MS-6702) and EluminX Keyvoard

My EluminX keyboard stays lit all the time with any BIOS revision above 1.2. I tried everything, enabling/disabling bios settings for all wake up events. Is there anyway I could get the keyboard to shut off and use a BIOS rev above 1.2.?

So...Just use bios 1.2 than.
I had the same issue with an optical mouse that stayed on. In order for wal to work, the mainboard needs the 5v rail all the time.
Have you tried disabling WAL, that might help.
Also, putting the keyboard on PS/2 iso USB will help.

Msi K8t Neo Fis2r-revision Differences

Hi everyone, Ive been trying to get rev 1.1 of the msi k8t neo fis2r but with no luck. Can anyone tell me the difference between the 1.0 rev and the 1.1 rev.Is it just a bios difference or is there more to it than that.
thankyou for any help,i find this forum most informative.

Hi Apple Renegade,
Thankyou for your prompt reply.I am fully aware of the 1.0 to 1.1 differences in bios. This tells me [obviously] that there ARE differences but does not tell me if it is tho ONLY difference between the two version mobo's, that is why i came to this forum where there are people with far more experience and knowledge than myselfd.If the difference is only bios then i have no problems going with the 1.0 version and doinga bios upgrade but if there are more differences then i need to know what they are. Regards.

6600GT not working with K8T neo-FIS2R

I recently returned a K8T NEO-FIS2R MB for repair. The problem was that the PS/2 and USB ports were broken. However the MB has been returned and the PS/2 and USB ports work fine. I posted about this several months ago.
Now the AGP port seems to be broken (not the actual slot). I have tried a 6800 Ultra and a 6600 GT (AGP version) GFX card in this slot. Both cards fail at the driver installation point. I have tried driver versions 66.93, 67.02 and 67.03. I also tried 3 versions of the via drivers 451, 453 and 455. Even tried XP with SP1 and SP2. The PC will sometimes BSOD, reset, won't boot into windows. The drivers sometimes install then other times they won't, etc. The problems only seem to be with the drivers for the GFX cards.
The 6600 GT works as I have tried it in another MB without any problems.
I know the memory works fine as I used memtest86+ for a couple of hours on the default settings without any errors and it works in another PC.
The spec of the PC is:
XP pro
K8T NEO-FIS2R MB
512MB corsair XMS at 2.5-3-7-3
XFX 6600GT
40gig HDD
FDD
Plextor CD writer
DVD Rom
PSU is a Q-tec 550W
I know Q-tec PSUs are not up to much from what I have read elsewhere in this forum, but I have had it running in a similar system with the 6800 Ultra installed without any trouble (even with the above MB before it went faulty). I have also tried a 400W PSU, that came with the case. The Voltages on the 12V line are between 12.00 and 12.03 when using the Q-tec PSU.
Has any body else had these problems with the 6600GT in the mentioned MB.
Also, how can I check the serial number on the MB with the label on the box, as this MB that was returned to me looks to “clean” to be the one I sent away for repair.
Thanks for any help

Hey, I'm glad to see a post on the new Gforce 6600GT AGP card. I just recently put together a brand new system (see my sig for specs). System runs great. The only thing I wanted to do was replace the video card, and after a great deal of anxiety I decided the Geforce 6600GT AGP was the best bang for the buck.
Well I got home, installed the card and never get passed the bios screen. (shows your processor, memory, memory siz), the screen u hit DEL to go into the bios.
The system doens't lock up, NUM LOCK can still be turned on and off, and CAPS can be turned of and on... but thats it. Just sits on that screen. I can't go into the bios either.
what settings do I need to do prior to isntalling this card to get it to work.
Let me know if you all need anymore details to help me out.
oh, I did reset my frequency to 10x200 (which is what I think the 3000+ is supposed to be at).

Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R - Suggestions

Hi,
I have just ordered these parts:
AMD Athlon 64 3200 (Socket 754) - Retail (CP-060-AM)
Asus DVD-E616P1 16X DVD-ROM / 48X CD-ROM - Retail (CD-002-AS)
Western Digital Caviar 120GB Special Edition 8MB Cache Serial ATA - OEM (HD-009-WD)
Antec Sonata Piano Black Quiet Case - 380W TruePower Silent PSU (CA-003-AT)
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Socket 754) Motherboard (MB-010-MS)
Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro
I am still stuck on RAM, despite searching other topics. Which PC3200 RAM actually works to the speed that it should, I'm not convinced by the MSI list.
Will Kingston HyperX PC3200 work to its full standard? I was initially looking at KingMax PC3500 RAM which is a lot cheaper, however it seems pointless to spend so much on quality parts and then get cheap RAM(although PC3500 should be faster, I assume it shouldn't make any difference if I'm not overclocking). I don't think I can quite afford Mushkin RAM, as I have about £220 for 1GB.
Secondly, with my PSU be able to power the system without overclocking?
Thanks for any ideas.

I would also suggest a better PSU, I had a Enermax 350W before and it only just coped + a high pitched whining sound
Plus a Pentium 4 and an AMD64 = not equivalent in terms of power consumption. If you already have that PSU, then fair enough try it. But if your still planning to buy it... I would go for a better one. Just my 2 cents

K8T Neo-FIS2R / Kingston KVR400X64C25/256

As a first time poster my apolgies if this has been covered elsewhere - I have read most of the posts on this forum but found no specific reference. Please just point me in the right direction if i am wrong!
I bought the Kingston KVR400X64C25/256 modules because:
a) they were listed by MSI on the list of tested Ram
b) they were on Kingston's list for the K8T NEO &
c) they were in stock. However...
If installed in DIMM 2 & 3 (as per MSI tested RAM pdf) the system crashes on trying to load Windows. DIMM 1 & 2 'works' if that allows for 8 or 9 restarts/day. I tried 1 & 3 to see if that improved the situation, but if anything it was worse. I have tried increasing the RAM voltage to 2.6 but there is no discernable difference. Upping the TRCD to 4 makes little or no difference.
Memtest86+ initially found no errors (16 hrs/93 passes) but when left running for a week came up with 10 errors (8 in test 6, 2 in test 4). MemTest (http://hcidesign.com/memtest/) gives me an average of 10 errors for 300% pass.
I'm now trying running the memory at 2.7v (within Kingston's ±.25v range).
In the meantime, has anyone run this memory without any problem - i.e. is it a simple case of faulty memory? Equally, has anyone had similar problems and found a solution?
thanks
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
AMI rev 1.2
AMD Athlon64 3000+ AMD heatsink/fan (working temp around 32°C)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/256 (DIMM 1, DIMM 2)
NVidia GeForce3 driver v53.03
Antec TruePower 430W +3.3V 28A, +5V 36A, +12V 20A. Max load 410W
IDE1 ST340016A (master) ST320014A (slave)
IDE2 MSI DVD-ROM D16 (MS-8216)
Soundblaster Live 5.1 platinum
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 service Pack 1

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Originally posted by Bas
Hi,
Sorry to say, but as soon as you get errors in memtest, no matter after how many hours, you need to try other memory.
As your memory seems to be unstable....errors in memtest are a NO-NO
hmmm! What if memtest, Prime95 etc. detect no problem over lengthy periods when sticks are individually tested in DIMM1 - as well as the system not crashing once - , but boot failures/memory dumps etc. abound when same sticks are individually placed at 2 or 3? Is this still a memory issue?
For what it's worth I have found Kingston's technical support more than helpful.
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
AMI rev 1.2
AMD Athlon64 3000+ AMD heatsink/fan (working temp around 40/42°C)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/256 (DIMM 1, DIMM 2)
NVidia GeForce3 driver v53.03
Antec TruePower 430W +3.3V 28A, +5V 36A, +12V 20A. Max load 410W
IDE1 ST340016A (master) ST320014A (slave)
IDE2 MSI DVD-ROM D16 (MS-8216)
Soundblaster Live 5.1 platinum
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 service Pack 1

K8T Neo FIS2R (MS6702) cool n quiet problem

Hi. I have an AMD64 3000 cpu installed. The cool n quiet variable frequency is not functioning anymore. Core Center reports it at 2000mhz all the time. As a result, it is running hotter than normal and is not as quiet. I tried the latest bios (ami v2.2), the latest amd64 driver and the latest core center. The system did not like the newest amd64 driver (shutdown just as windows finished loading) so I went back to the previous versions of everything. It did work at one time but something must have changed.
System Specs:
K8T Neo FIS2R (MS-6702)
AMD64 3000 socket 754 (clawhammer or newcastle I think)
chipset K8T800
bios AMI v1.9
amd64 driver v1.2.2
Core Center v1.5.5.0
cool n quiet enabled in bios setup
dynamic overclocking disabled
Thanks for any input
Pete

Ok, this is nuts. I think its time to clear the cmos. I'm now using speedfan and even with the max speed setting for the cpu fan at 1% (one percent), the cpu fan runs at around 3800. Then it drops to zero when the set cpu temp is reached (40c). There's no in between. When I start the system, its max'd at around 4400. I pulled the fan and heatsink to clean them last weekend and it seems that's when all this started. Perhaps something went awry when I disconnected and reconnected the fan to the board. The bios version, the amd driver, and the core center version are now all the same as before I pulled the fan. I'm clearing the cmos.

Where is board temperature probe seated on mobo K8T- Neo - FIS2R

hi All
I would like to know where board temp probe is seated on my mobo K8T - Neo FIS2R
MSI K8T-Neo FIS2R
AMD64 3400+ Clawhammer @ 2310 Mhz
NORTH Q Silent Ice II NQ-3100 With Ceramic fan bearing
Leadtek Winfast A400 256 Mb DDR3 G-Force 6800 GT @ 400/1100 Mhz
1 GB Cosair DDR RAM
NORTH Q King Kong Extreme 500 Watt
Aopen CD-RW 52-32-52
Maxtor 160 GB 8mb 7,2 Rpm
Maxtor 80 GB 8mb 7,2 Rpm
Maxtor 60 GB 8mb 7,2 Rpm

Somewhere close between the RAM and the Winbond chip as near as I can figure.

K8T Neo-FIS2R V1.0, CPU Speed Problem

Hi, I got a Athlon64 3500+ (NewCastle) and K8T Neo-FIS2R V1.0 MotherBoard
Just downgrade my bios from 9.2 to 3.3 since the 9.2 bios does not show the correct +3v voltage in the core center and the website is recommending that old version of Athlon should use 3.xx bios.
But the problem occurs, the core center now shows the cpu speed is 1xx rpm and keep sending alarm. I use other software to check the fan speed and it is 2xxx rpm. The temp of the cpu is between 33 to 43 'C.The temp of the case stays at 42 'C. The voltage of the CPU is 1.52-1.53V. One time, somehow the temp of the cpu went up to 50'C but the fan is not turning faster to cool down the CPU. No matter what models (Cool&Quiet or User) I choose in the core center, it just did not go faster. Finally, I have set full speed of the fan in the core center to increase the speed of the fan.
My PSU is Enermax 450W, and I used 5V for my three case fans since they are really noise.
Any problems with my system or computer, or any recommemdation?
Sorry for my English, but I am doing my best.

Everest just has no readings that work for us. They never supported our board. None of the software gets a correct read on our 3.3v so no there is no answer. I have tried them all as have others. If reading the 3.3v is that important to you use a meter.
I have yet to ever trust Core Center. It lies. Keep in mind just how many MSI products it is used in. So far it has yet to be that accurate in any Via Based MSI product. Search the forum here for it. No one seems overjoyed with CC.

Onboard 5.1 sound noisy - K8T Neo FIS2R

Hi guys, i'm new here.
Well, i got a K8T Neo FIS2R and the 5.1 sound is noisy. I've tried many different drivers, replaced my 5.1 speakers for new ones and it doesn't work properly at all. I've been using a 2.1 system and it works just fine. Has anyone seen this problem? any advice?
Thanks in advance
Kein

LOL OK you can save us time by replying to that end the next time. Thanks.
I know it may seem trivial but I can't count how many times a suggestion was assumed to have been tried and it turned out to be the fix in the end. So if we seem grouchy about getting a reply remember that we aren't the only one's that waste time chasing stuff when no one let's us know what they have tested.
OK back to your problem. There are no magic buttons to push. If you have tried other speakers and drivers then it is likely something on the MB that is causing the problem. It could be a power line somewhere close to a chip or connection, it could be a bad ground. If you have a Sound card handy you could also check it to see if the problem goes away. Otherwise you may have to RMA it.

PSU for K8T Neo-FIS2R

What model of PSU has its cooling fans which can be controlled from PWFAN1 and PWFAN2 on the K8T Neo-FIS2R motherboard?
Kaz

Sorry but there is no real specific one out there that I have ever seen. Most of the Bios options you see have been available since forever with Via Chipsetted boards. However DOT is specific to MSI which is Dynamic Overclocking technolodies. DOT can automatically overclock your voard depending one what your doing. I recommend staying away from it as it can cause as many issues as anything in your rig. And then there is Cool and Quiet which is an AMD 64 Bit CPU specific option to downclock the multipliers for the CPU during Idle Times to save energy and keep the CPU cool. Again it is not really needed.
The rest of the stuff you can use google to find individually or by searching for Award Bios's or Via Chipset Bios settings.
These are way to much for any one person to post a complete guide to here as all the info is readily available elsewhere.

Should I flash the bios? K8T NEO FIS2R

Ok... I have a K8T NEO FIS2R mobo. A couple of friends of mine have been telling me to flash the bios to the most current version... Then some other people have been telling me that it is too risky and I should hold off untill something goes wrong that I know a bios flash can fix...
I'm just wondering what is the concencious here... should I flash it, or should I stay with the current version I have now(the one that came with the mobo) I Like to have my computer as up to date as possible, but all the reports of bad flashes have me a little worried. This is a procedure that I have never done before, and I dont want to mess it up.
If I should flash, Any insight, tips, tricks, special instructions, etc... would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks!
Magnum

Thanks guys for the quick responces... I'm used to not getting a responce from forums for 12-24hrs and here it is less than 24hrs later and I have 10 responces.
I'm not at my computer in question right now, but I am almost positive that my bios is ver1.0. Same one that came with my mobo.
At this point I am leaning towards flashing... If basically the only way to mess it up is to have my power fail, then I dont think I will have a problem. I'll just borrow an UPS from work here to be on the safe side.
hypothetically if i follow the instructions to a tee(windows flash/live update) are there any other ways it can mess it up? I just want to get a hold on all the places where I could mess it up.
Will live update take me all the way through the procedure, or do I need a separate set of instructions to read off of during the flash?
Also what gear will I need... floppy disk? anything else?
Sorry about all the questions, just want to make sure I do this right the first time!
Thanks!
Magnum

K8T Neo-FIS2R - 3200+ - Mushkin Level 1 RAM: Optimal Memory Settings

Just got a K8T Neo-FIS2R with a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with 1g (512MB X
2) Mushkin Level 1 PC3500 RAM as recommended by Anandtech on his High
End System roundup:
www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2041
I am having a HUGE problems with memory settings in the BIOS.
On AUTO, the memory is only autodected at DDR200, which I found odd.
I them took memory setting in my old hands and things don't seem much
better:
I made these changes:
MEMCLOCK: DDR400
BANK INTERVEAVING: AUTO
BURST LENGTH: 8 BEAT
CL: 2
TRCD: 3
TRAS: 5
TRP: 2
This was unstable at first and bumped the DDR Voltage to 2.7, moved
the sticks to DIMM1 and DIMM3 (instead of DIMM2), and it seems stable,
but not very fast. according to Sandra Scores
Any recommendations for Memory Settings? Why would the MB not
autodecte DDR400 RAM? I am not looking to overlock...just maximize
the CPU and memory I have.
Maybe I just need to get new memory. What is the best memory for this motherboard?
Thanks,
Steve

I'm running the same mem (see my sig). Since its PC3500 I attempted to tighten the settings to those you had listed (2,3,2,5). It was not Prime95 torture test stable at even the stock 200 MHz FSB using these settings. Upping the voltage to 2.7 did not increase the stability in my system at these settings. The memory ran perfectly at AUTO settings, but was clocked at 2.5,3,3,8 I believe.
Keep in mind that level 1 is advertised at 2,3,3. My system is 100% stable at 2.7V for me up to 210 MHz FSB at these settings (I haven't tried any faster). My TRAS is set to 6.
Hope this helps a fellow Mushkin user

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