Difference SEM-BCS and BO PLanning & Consolidation

Hi all,
as announced in the subject. I was wondering what the difference between SEM-BCS and BO Planning & Consolidation is(so referring to the consolidation part)?
Is BO Planning & Consolidation = BO Planning + SEM BCS
Looking forward to your ideas!
Best regards
Hagen

Hi Collet,
Sorry I have no time to make a full-fledged comparison SEM-BCS and SAP BPC as you asked.
Regarding your last link: very interesting information. Thank you very much.
The citation from the article:
Known Limitations
In SAP BusinessObjects Planning and Consolidation (BPC), organizations (i.e. entities and groups/consolidation scopes) car vary according to Category and Time. However, all the other dimensions are static, which means they have neither category nor time dependency. As a result, the model presented here will use static Profit Center and Intercompany Profit Center dimensions.
Eliminations (so called Automatic Adjustments in BPC) are primarily driven by Legal Entity and Intercompany dimensions. As a result, when it comes to Matrix Consolidation, each elimination will still occur based on this fact. So, basically, an elimination is triggered if both an Entity and the Intercompany entity are being consolidated under the same node (i.e. Group or Consolidation scope). In other words, BPC does not evaluate as such the Profit Center and Intercompany Profit Center dimensions when it comes to performing eliminations. Amounts will be eliminated based on the Legal Entity view. However, it is possible to analyze and group eliminations by Profit Center later on. As a result, Matrix consolidation will heavily leverage the reporting/filtering capabilities of the product.
I'm afraid that in SEM-BCS' sense the Matrix consolidation has much more deep meaning than that presented here.

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