Differences betweem LR and Camera Raw
Hi, I'm using lightroom 5.7.1 to work on my RAW files while I was using Camera Raw before (on PC). I compared results in LR and Camera Raw after (with the same adjustments). Histogram in LR shows no clipping (in low or high light). The same picture openned in Camera Raw shows a high light clipping. How is it possible ?
Is there a way to get the same result in both software ?
Thanks.
To summarize what you're seeing and why things are different:
The ACR plug-in shows a histogram and clipping warnings based on if you exported the file using whatever color profile you've specified in the Workflow options using the blue link below the main image area--in your screenshot this is AdobeRGB.
Lightroom shows the histogram and warnings based on its own internal working color space which is only used in LR and cannot be selected from a list in any program. The way to change this behavior is to turn on softproofing and specify the output profile the same as you have in ACR and you should see a similar histogram and out-of-gamut warnings. I used the word "should" and Modesto is asking for confirmation about whether LR-with-softproofing enabled is similar to ACR or not.
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I just applied the Lightroom 5.3 and Camera Raw 8.3 updates and now am no longer able to open RAW or DNG files into Photoshop CC. When I select a file and choose "Edit In" Photoshop, photoshop will launch, then nothing will happen. After 2 to 5 minutes, an error will popup in Lightroom saying "The file could not be edited because Adobe Photoshop CC could not be launched." An error I've never seen before. When I click "Ok", Lightroom will show that it's "preparing a file for editing" in the upper left, it will create and save a psd to disk and in the catalog (another new behavior), then it will open in photoshop. All other file types (jpgs, tiff, psd) seem to work/open fine between applications. No difference if I open photoshop prior to selecting "Edit In". Selecting "Edit In" other applications, like Viveza, work fine.
I tried first deleting preference files in both applications. No luck. Ditto for plugins. Notta. Eventually I completely uninstalled and fresh installed Photoshop, Lightroom, and Bridge from the cloud. Same deal...can't open raw/dng files into Photoshop.
I'm at a complete loss, dead in the water, with a mountain of editing work piling on top of me. Kicking myself for applying the upgrades, which I had been delaying for some time to avoid just such a cluster%#$. Ugh.
I'm on a PC running Windows 7 64bit.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.In the normal situation, LR needs to see a PS installed for it to detect the Edit In PS option is possible, so if you uninstall both, then install PS, first, then LR. Of course with this release there may be some hiccup that requires installing either one or the other, again, but if you've uninstalled both and are reinstalling both, then install PS, first.
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Are Bridge and Mini Bridge and Camera Raw part of PS?
1.) Are Bridge and Mini Bridge and Camera Raw part of PS? OR do they also come with other programs in the Adobe software suite?
2.) What is the difference between Bridge and Mini Bridge?
Thanks.1.) The Bridge application is included in the Photoshop installer, as well as some other Adobe products.(more info: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/bridge/?promoid=GWELP). The Mini Bridge extension is only included in Photoshop CS5, and InDesign CS5. The Photoshop Camera Raw plug-in is shared by Photoshop, and Bridge (and is also found in Photoshop Elements).
2.) Bridge is a separate application, whereas Mini Bridge is a panel that's hosted by the Photoshop or InDesign application. Bridge has a fuller feature set than Mini Bridge and can be used by itself. Mini Bridge needs Bridge to create thumbnails, keep files synchronized, and perform other tasks, but operates in the context of the Ps or ID host application (ie. drag/drop multiple assets into working document w/o losing document view).
Online version of Mini Bridge Help: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/creativesuite/cs/using/WS4bebcd66a74275c33c28e88f1235296fe93-8 000.html
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Merge to HDR Pro and Camera Raw stop working...
I have been noticing for the past few days that two aspects of PS CS6 completely stop working. Those are Merge to HDR Pro and Camera Raw 7.0. What happens is I can see a photo yet no changes take place no matter what I change, I try zooming, I try changing settings, nothing at all changes. At one point Merge to HDR Pro would not let me cancel or click okay to do anything. To solve this problem I must reboot PS. Merge to HDR Pro this problem keeps happening, with Camera Raw I have seen this issue twice so far.
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Hello:
I will be using creative techniques to process and manipulate a large number (hundreds) of very large (80 megapixel) images captured using a medium format digital back (Phase One IQ180).
Final output will be digital fine art imagery printed using an Epson 11880 at large sizes (up to 60 inches x ?), retaining the highest possible quality and resolution. I will be using Adobe CC PhotoShop and Camera RAW as well as Capture One software. PhotoShop filters will be used extensively.
The Mac Pro needs to be optimized for the above purpose and be useful for at least five years. I plan to max out all the other options (RAM, graphics cards, storage). Performance is more important than cost.
The few discussions I have found that mention optimum core configurations seem to lean toward 6 or 8 (but likely are not taking into consideration my need for manipulating a large number of very large files), so I am looking to this foum for opinions.
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I cannotg open photos in Photgoshop CS6. I can open them in Photoshop Browser and Camera Raw, but cannotg open them in Photoshop. Blue circle comes on for about three seconds, then changes to a plus sign, and nothing else happens. Please help. Adobe Photoshop is either unwilling or unable to help me with this problem.
Nobody can help you without some exact system info and details on what photos exactly.
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I re-downloaded my Photoshop recently and Adobe Bridge no longer displays my Nikon NEF files and Camera Raw will not open them. I get a message saying that Camera Raw does not support my camera type but it always has in the past. The bridge no longer shows the picture view of my NEF files. These are Nikon NEF files from the Nikon 5100 DSLR camera. How do I fix this?
I re-downloaded my Photoshop recently and Adobe Bridge no longer displays my Nikon NEF files and Camera Raw will not open them. I get a message saying that Camera Raw does not support my camera type but it always has in the past.
When you re-installed Photoshop, you also re-installed the version of Camera Raw which shipped with Photoshop - in other words you reverted to an older version of Camera Raw which does not support the D5100.
Camera Raw plug-in | Supported cameras
The D5100 was first supported in Camera Raw version 6.4.
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Bridge and Camera RAW preferences not working
I'm setting up a new Macbook Pro, late 2013 15", 10.9.2
CS6 Production Premium, Also have Indesign CS6, LR5, Acrobat Pro 11. Camera RAW is version 8.4. Everything is up to date.
Bridge and Camera RAW preferences are not working correctly. Bridge prefs related to Bridge display, e.g. color theme, text beneath thumbnails, favorite locations, etc.. all work fine. Bridge prefs open and close fine with no errors. "Double Click Edits Camera RAW Settings in Bridge" does not take. Photoshop launches to open Camera RAW regardless of whether this is checked or not. Camera RAW preferences will not open. Selecting "Camera RAW Preferences" from Bridge does nothing. Camera RAW seems to work fine hosted by Photoshop.
I tried a new user with the same results.
What's up with this? Anyone else seeing this? Solution?
--Davidfixed it with this work around
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I redownloaded my Photoshop CS5 and Camera Raw will not accept my RAW files nor will the Adobe Bridge display the picture view of these files. A message displays saying it doesn't support this camera. I have a Nikon 5100 DSLR Camera. It always displayed them in the past. How can I get it to display these photos in Bridge and open them in RAW?
Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Windows : Camera Raw 6.7 Update
Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh : Camera Raw 6.7 Update
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Help!??? I am having trouble with PS CS-6 displaying/ producing/ saving grainy pictures when import NEF files!!!
Hi all,
When I import all NEF or RAW files into CS6 from Bridge and Camera Raw from the Nikon D200 and D5000, they become grainy/ pixelated. However, RAW files from the D800 did not have problem. I set the Color Space in my Nikons to AdobeRGB, in PS Camera Raw 8.5 to AdobeRGB, in PS CS-6 ColorSpace to AdobeRGB, and Save As Jpeg with Max quality (12). When comparing between CS-6 produced file and the original, I can see a big drop in quality and the picture become grainy and pixelated. What can I do to make this right? Any help/ suggestion is appreciated.
Thank you!
HNCan you show us a screen-shot of the raw in Camera Raw that shows this noise, or if you only see it in the saved JPG, then show us a side-by-side of the raw in Camera Raw and the JPG? Show the same area of the photo and zoom to 100%.
It is normal for raw photos to have grain but you can mostly remove it with the Luminance Noise-Reduction sliders in the Detail tab of Camera Raw.
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I have Photoshop CS 5.5 version, but I've just changed my camera and I can't open my raw files. I need for my new camera Photoshop CC and Camera Raw 8.7 version. How can I do to update the old version? Thank you
Thank you for your valuable advice. I've solved the problem right now.
Thanks
2015-03-16 15:06 GMT+01:00 c.pfaffenbichler <[email protected]>:
I have Photoshop CS 5.5 version, but I've just changed my camera and
I can't open my raw files. I need for my new camera Photoshop CC and Camera
Raw 8.7 version. How can I do to update the old version? Thank you
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Using LR2 w/ Photoshop CS2 and Camera Raw 3.7
I am using Photoshop CS2 and Camera Raw 3.7 on a Mac G4, OS X 10.4.11.
I am about to install my upgrade to Lightroom 2. Is this a bad idea?
I have read about some compatibility issues re Camera Raw, and I have also read about how to solve the issue of exporting the keywords.
Will this keyword issue fix work on my system?
What are the real-world practical implications of still having Camera Raw 3.7? I usually adjust images in Lightroom, then any further adjustment is done in Photoshop (not CR). So is the only downside going to be that if I revisit the image in Camera Raw, the adjustments will not show up? Or will it also not show up in Bridge?? And if it is only in CR, is it that the image does not have the adjustments; or does it show the adjusted image, but has just all the sliders zeroed out?
I am hot to install LR2, but I want to make sure that I am not going to open a can of worms. And yes, I could buy PS CS4 (which would get me CR 4.5), and I would like to, but I don't have a G5. And I cannot afford to buy a new desktop computer right now.
Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Dean Abramson>so is the LR version of RAW as good as the one in CS3?
It's far better as it has local adjustments and such. Lightroom is more equivalent to the ACR in CS4. To make changes you make to images in ACR outside Lightroom show up in Lightroom, you need to sync the metadata. ACR does not write the changes to RAW images to the Lightroom database, but it writes it into xmp sidecars either right next to the RAW file or embedded into it. So Lightroom has no idea you did anything until you specifically ask it to check for updated metadata.
Note that trying to work with both bridge/ACR and Lightroom on the same set of data will inevitably make you lose data or edits at some point as you're dealing with a synchronization issue, so be careful. -
File appearence not the same in PS CS4, LR2 and Camera RAW
I've just noticed that files as displayed in Lightroom 2 or in Camera RAW, when opened in Photoshop CS4 have a different appearence. In Photoshop the file appears much flatter and with considerably less saturation and dynamic range. When you compare the files beside each other in RAW and in Lightroom, they look the same. I have tried exporting the files to Photoshop from Lightroom using the "open with Lightroom Edits" and Edit a Copy and Edit the original, but the results are the same. After editing a photo in Photoshop and saving it back into Lightroom, the photo appears very saturated in the Lightroom or in Camera RAW. I don't know how long this has been this way, but now that I hace noticed it, it is driving me nuts.
Thanks for your help
SteveChristopher thank you so much for responding and you have pinpointed the problem. The problem was the color settings. Color settings were set to sRGB and when I changed it to ProPhoto RGB Photoshop rendered file as it appears in the files in Lightroom and Camera RAW. I shoot in ProPhotoRGB and that seems to be why the images looked so flat when imported using sRGB.
Thanks for taking the time to help
Steve -
Lightroom 2.3 and Camera Raw 5.3 Available - Note from Adobe
Lightroom 2.3 and Camera Raw 5.3 are now available as release candidates on Adobe Labs.
Lightroom 2.3, http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.3
Camera Raw 5.3, http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Camera_Raw_5.3
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Tom Hogarty
Adobe SystemsHi All:
based on the good work of Dorin above (post #19), he did a timeline of various releases of Lightroom from Adobe and it shows that from "version x RC" to "final release version" was around 1 month.
as it is already exactly one month now, it must not be too much longer till they will release the LR2.3 Final Version.
As for what Robert said in post #23, well, there's never any "guarantee" on a problem-free piece of software, or, for that matter, anything one purchases or anything in life, actually!! Yet, one can make educated extrapolations, right? From the range of comments thus far on LR2.3RC, it appears that it is the best version yet of LR2.x. This leads to the conclusion that it is probably a "good bet" that this version will likely lead to the least amount of issues, right? Maybe not "zero issues", but most likely, the least amount of issues from the various LR2.x versions available.
So by waiting, say, merely 1-3 more weeks approximately, i can go directly from LR1.4 (which i've been using for many months) to LR2.3 Final Release Version. It seems like it is a prudent and conservative move or plan.
What do the good folks here think, please?
thanks in advance for helping me to mull this over. If i were a PC expert, i'd be thinking about this less. as i'm just a somewhat competent user, and not a whiz, i thought that a bit of care and planning it out intelligently can possibly reduce frustrations later. -
DNGs produced from Hasselblad .fff files display a different image in Bridge and Camera Raw
Lately, not sure when this started exactly, Bridge CC (and Camera RAW 8.7) are displaying incorrect DNG images! Instead of showing the image I expect to see, I'll see an old image from days ago. This seems to carry on from Bridge through to Camera RAW. But then if I continue on to Photoshop with the image, it'll finally show the correct image.
I'm assuming this has something to do with DNG, because if I load another raw file type (like .fff or .NEF), it seems ok. Also it seems to be ok with DNGs produced from other cameras like Nikon D90.
My set up:
- Mac OS X 10.9.5 (Mavericks)
- Bridge CC
- Camera Raw 8.7
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- Hasselblad H4D-50HI, I managed to fix the trouble by reinsatalling once again and running updates BEFORE opening bridge. It seemed that if I ran the update AFTER opening bridge I would get either an up to date status when checking for updates or I would get an install failure notice on all 4 updates that were trying to install. The updates were for camera raw, bridge and PS. I can't explain why but that helped a little. I also changed permissions on my whole user accnt to include read/write for all users. I can't say if this helped or not. I also had to go into my camera B/U files on a sepate HD and replace some of the CR folders I was using o nthe desktop. Still the CR files would not show a thumb nor a preview till I then went to each individual file inside that folder and purged the cashe for that file so it could repopulate the cashe yet again. This has been the strangest few days in PSCS6 history! Well my personal history. I will report back here if more quirks emerge. I would prefer quarks though....aloha, U
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