Differences in Oracle Service Bus, BPEL and human workflow

Hi Everyone,
I am newbie, don't know if its the right place to post this thread.
I want to prepare paper on differences in Oracle Service Bus, BPEL and human workflow, can anybody help me.
Till now i came to know all these things are very different, no poit comparing them but still need differences
Thanks in advance:
Vikas

Basic difference:
BPEL : It is used for orchastrating different processes. Its heavyweight and stores instances (stateful)
OSB : It is used for routing data between the applications
Human Workflow : It is used to handle scenarios where manual intervention is necessary.
Refer for more on Oracle BPEL
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/bpel/htdocs/orabpel_faq.html
Regards,
Ketan

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JDeveloper is the IDE of choice for SOA development at Oracle. AquaLogic Service Bus users have traditionally been using the web-based console to design, manage and monitor ESB flows. The web console is a key differentiator for ALSB (now Oracle Service Bus) and will therefore remain a primary design
environment moving forward.
The web-based console was complemented in the 3.0 release with full IDE support in Eclipse. The Eclipse capabilities will be ported to Oracle JDeveloper to provide a
one-stop IDE for all SOA design needs. Until that port is complete, customers will still be able to use the Eclipse environment as IDE (in addition to the web-based
console).
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James

Oracle Service Bus IDE plugin and OEPE

Hello,
Due to some trouble I got with Oracle Workshop 10gR3 with JEE5 development, I switch to Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse (OEPE) 11g.
As I have to use oracle Service Bus 10gR3, I would like to benefit from the Oracle Service Bus plugin bundled with Oracle Workshop.
I would to avoid switch between two Eclipse's instances (Europa and Ganymede).
Is it possible to deploy Oracle Service Bus Eclipse's plugin on OEPE 11g?
Thanks

May I did not well expressed my question.
I did not tried to deploy Oracle Service Bud IDE plugins on OEPE 11g.
I can figure out that this will not work properly.
If I understand, the plan for the future is to adopt OEPE 11g even for Oracle Service Bud IDE.
Is there any date for this?
Thanks

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