Differences in .pdf and .rtf

I'm trying to create a report that the output needs to be in a .pdf or in a .rtf, the user decides. I'm having with the .rtf because the output looks perfect in a .pdf but doesn't look the same in the .rtf output.
Is this normally the way BI Pub works when using 1 template for both .pdf and .rtf output?
Thanks!!
Kris Henning
www.piocon.com

Always its better to use different templates for individual output types as the template designed with perfection for pdf output type dosen't comply with rtf or any other type and vice versa.
Cheers!
Vishnu T Ramakrishnan

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Cheers!
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CA Forum: General
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