Differences in sort order between iTunes and iPod

Can someone explain how the sort order of artists / albums works? It seems that it is different between iTunes and the iPod. In iTunes (7.3.1) I can enter data in the fields for Artist, Album Artist, Sort Artist and Sort Album Artist. When I get the tracks to appear in the order I want in iTunes, it doesn’t seem to transfer across to my iPod. I know there are some differences in how the sort order works in both, but how is it different?
John.
Dell 5150 Windows XP

ou must have an older iPod.
I believe the new sort order only works on the new iPods (Nano and Video)

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I checked, I'am sure of the problem:
package test;
import java.sql.Connection;
import java.sql.DriverManager;
import java.sql.ResultSet;
import java.sql.Statement;
public class Test {
     public static void main(String[] args) {
          try {
               String className = "oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver";
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Message was edited by: jstubbs99

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