Different color chapter markers

When I hit M in the timeline to enter a marker I somtimes get a green one on top or red one on the bottom. What is the difference? I've also noticed that it only comes through as a chapter marker in quicktime or iDVD when it is a green one. Also I created chapter markers in the viewer, then when I moved them to the timeline they did carry over, but didn't work in iDVD. So can I only create chapter markers in the timeline to work in iDVD?

First see Tom's answer in chapter marker wierdness
About colors: as far as I know markers appear green in the timeline or red in a clip. To add a marker in a clip first select the clip. If no clip is selected the marker is added to the timeline.
A marker in a clip is useful to mark a point of the clip independent of its position in the timeline (eg music beats): if you move the clip the clip markers moves with it. A marker in the timeline does not move with clips, and can be used for marking chapters.
In the viewer you see only the markers (red) of a single clip, while in the canvas you see only the markers (green) of the timeline; unless the playhead is right over the marker: then the marker becomes yellow. Use shift up or down arrow to get exactly over them.
Chapter markers are markers in the timeline (not in the clip) that you specifically mark as <CHAPTER>:
- position the playhead in the timeline
- make sure no clip is selected in the timeline (cmd-shift-A)
- press m twice
- click on the button Add Chapter Marker, and OK
When exporting for iDVD: use Export/QuickTime Movie and select "Chapter Markers" in the save dialog.
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