Different Method to valuate sales order stock

Dear expert,
     I came across a problem and I need your help:
     Scenario: Make-To-Order production without sales order controlling. Uses standard price in material master record.
     As we know, There are a predefined sequence to valuate sales order stock: First, The system uses the standard price on the basis of your customer exit COPCP002 Material valuation for valuated sales order stock. If not defined COPCP002, Then, the system uses sales order costing. Then, the system determines the standard price using the production order cost estimate. At the end, the system determines that If you manufacture a material both for the make-to-stock-inventory and for the valuated sales order stock, the system reads the material master record of the collective requirements material.
     In SAP online Help, there is a note that: If you calculate the standard price of sales order stock in a preliminary cost estimate for the manufacturing order or use the price in the material master record, you cannot transfer cost component splits into COPA. This is my doubt: I don't know exactly where are the differences between sales orde costing and standard price in material mater to determine sales order stock.
     So, I have a question: What are the extract diffences between using sale order cost estimate and the standard price in the material master record to determine valuated sales order stock?
     Thanks for your help. Best regards,

What you said is exactly what I want! Very thankful for your help.
Yes, I have found that in EBEW table that standard price is valuated with preliminary cost estimate because I don't give a sales order cost estimate but I give an sales order stock in the customizing - requirement class. So, I have this question that how the sales order stock is determined.
In COPA customizing (COprofitability analysismaster datavaluationSet up valuation using material cost estimate), standard cost estimate or sales order cost estimate can be transferred into COPA value fields in our system.
But, I have still have a question: I found in our system, preliminary cost estimate in the linked production order is determined for valuation of sales order stock in EBEW table. As sap online help says, cost component splits can not be transferred to COPA.
So, according to SAP online help, I think what you said u201Cu2026..However , when we start thinking about the result of this cost to flow into COPA , this cannot happen as the Inventory was valued with a Preliminary csot estimate. So , the Online help says that it will not be able to transfer Result of Preliminary cost estimate into COPA for transferrring COGS details. System would always require a Standard cost estimate or a Sales order Cost estimate to flow Cost details into COPAu201D is correct.
But, in our system, cost component can be transferred into COPA!? When I create a sales billing (invoice) with tcode VF01, it can create a profitability analysis document (shown in VF03) which it had a cost component split for that material in the sales order stock valuated with the preliminary cost estimate. Or where is stored for the Make-to-Order materialu2019s cost component split in COPA?
That is the real point that confused me. Hope you can help me. Thanks very much.

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The system has not found any stock that satisfies the selection criteria entered.
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Can anybody tell me the difference between the above said subject with the steps involved in each scenario.
That is valuated sale order stock and Non valuated sale order stock in Product cost by Sale Order.
With Journal entries at each step and whether any WIP or variances at Production order level and sale order level and all the financial entries related to them
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Hi Shail,
Thans for your inputs,
But I wanted to know it in more detail. In what scenarios they are used with financial entries in both the cases.
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Mi missing something?
Question
1) Whether all steps are correct
2) There will be no standard cost release and no variance calculation as well.
3)How can i use RA under non valuated sales order stock?.
4)HOw can i use customer stock under sales order bom with non valuated value?
5)How i will do Production order GR Only qty update?
regards
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Hi Raman
All steps are correct.. You seem to be an expert now!
THere wil be no Std cost release or variance calc
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For external procurement with a Valuated Sales Order Stock, system generates a purchase requisition from the sales order.
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Material which comes from prod order is posted statistically (value type 11) to sales order when GR for prod order is done.
Here, the issue is about a GR for purchase order (assigned to sales order). This material purchased is not used in any production process. Its a material which is supplied to customer along with main material produced in house.
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2. Once the sales order is created, the cost estimates are created for both Finished, and semi-finished products.
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Hi
I think you are talking about Special Stock "E"...ie) Sale Order Stock...
If my understanding is correct then,
If you go and see the Table T156....For the
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Movement Indicator : Against PO,
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This linkage you can view in OLMW-----> Account Determination -
> Acc. Determination W/O Wizard -
>Account Grouping....also
Reward if useful
Regards
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Edited by: baskaran srinivasan on Dec 20, 2007 12:18 PM

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