Different number of data records in source system and BI system

Hi all,
I have been using datasources 0HR_PA_0 and 0HR_PA_1.
When I run and check the records in source system via RSA3 there are 4893 and 360 records respectively.
When I extract the records into my 0PA_C01 cube, however, 3058 and 249 records are coming respectively.
Furthermore, when I create a personnel record in source system, it is not extracted into BI cube.
What may be the reason?
I am looking forward to your suggestions.
Regards,
Dilek

Srinath,
I've created many new personnel records in source system and these records are displayed in the list of RSA3.
However, these newly created records are not reflected in BI cube when I extract data via the specified datasources.
I've checked whether there are some filters defined, however no filter seems to exist.
By the way, I am using full upload; no delta!
Regards,
Dilek
Edited by: Dilek Ersoz on Aug 14, 2009 1:45 PM

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