Different result in frame viewer and canvas

I´m doing some color correction with the 3 way CC tool and i´m having troubles with Frame Viewer: the results are not the same in the Canvas and Frame Viewer. The colors in Frame Viewer are a little bit more saturated and they are also a bit darker.
I figured out that it happens in a lot of different configurations (Mac Pro, Imac and macbook Pro) but just with Snow Leopard.
This problem doesn't exist in Tiger and i haven't the opportunity to test it with leopard.
I found a topic in this forum support, where a guy had the same problem, he solved with the excess luma command, but it doesn't make sense, infact I still have this problem.
I think that this is a software problem and also quite big, btw what i want to know is, which reference is more accurate?
Time Viewer or canvas?

sdd84 wrote:
...what i want to know is, which reference is more accurate?
Time Viewer or canvas?
Neither.
FCP is showing you a low res proxy of the image. Final Cut Pro does this because it is about concentrating on the flow of your story, not color fidelity. That is less demanding on the CPU.
To color correct accurately, your system needs to be connected to a calibrated external video monitor (or at the vey least, an excellent TV) fed by a qualified capture card such as those from AJA, Black Magic or Matrox.

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Color Correction: different result in Frame Viewer and Canvas

Hi all:
I´m doing some color correction with the 3 way CC tool and i´m having troubles with Frame Viewer: the results are not the same in the Canvas and Frame Viewer. The colors in Frame Viewer are a little bit more saturated and they are also a bit darker. I´ m talking about the half Frame Viewer that is supposed to show me the final result after the color correction.
Mi footage is in HDV 720 25p. Anyone know what is happening????

You'll probably find them lined up at your Chevy dealer.
View>Range Check>Excess Luma.

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Hi guys,
I've noticed a lower quality in the picture in the canvas window compared to the viewer window. In the viewer the image is clean and sharp, however not so in the canvas. The image is slightly degraded. What gives? Have I set something up incorrectly etc.?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Cheers,

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#8 External Monitor Viewing.
Shane's Stock Answer #8:
A simple path is mac > firewire > camera or deck > rca cables > tv
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Then go View > External video > all frames
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Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
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2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
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4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section
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Different Results From V$Rman_Backup_job_details and V$Rman_Status

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Image of Quries: www.hydell.com/OracleBackupDifferences.png
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oracle.dba.89 wrote:
Please show the script and that might help look into this. Also the timezone of the OS shows EST. And cron shows the scheduled time at 12hrs. It should run at 12:00 EST hours and not GMT.
Also please post output for below queries. Are backups run from the same node? (If RAC)
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Hi,
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ORACLE_SID=MROPROD
PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin
btype="FULL"
RMAN_BACKUP_LOC=/data1/RMAN/MROPROD
export ORACLE_HOME
export ORACLE_SID
export PATH
export btype
tag="$ORACLE_SID"_"$btype"
#Print commands and their arguments as they are executed
set -x
SDATE=`date +%m%d%y`
STIME=`date +%H%M%S`
DD=`date +%d%m%y`
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mkdir -p $RMAN_BACKUP_LOC/datafiles_backup/bkp_${DD}
mkdir -p $RMAN_BACKUP_LOC/controlfile_backup/bkp_${DD}
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change archivelog all crosscheck;
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backup as compressed backupset archivelog all not backed up 1 times FORMAT '$RMAN_BACKUP_LOC/arch_backup/bkp_${DD}/ARCH_%d_%s_%p';
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delete noprompt obsolete;
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EXIT;
EOF1
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VALUE
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Cant see any video only white screens in Viewer and Canvas

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Thanks for any insights.

Thanks for all the suggestions, including links back to earlier discussions. This did shed some light, (and kicked me to be more explicit), when reviewing an earlier question on the same issue, but stating that this happened on an external Dell 2408 monitor...which is what I am using to edit. When i open the MBP and remove the video miniport cable and try to play on the laptop display, all is well, I can see video in both Viewer and Canvas. When i plug the monitor back in and drag these windows over to the monitor (cant move the FCP application wholesale) they also play fine. When i close the MBP, wait and refire it up with mouse or keyboard...I see video in both, but when i play either one the image jumps back and forth, cycling from one frame and back...while the time code advances and the audio track does too.

16:9 viewer and canvas

Ok, this is a simple thing, yet it is bothering me. Every time I see a picture of someone using FCE, the viewer and canvas are widescreen. I can't seem to get my canvas and viewer to be widescreen. I can work with widescreen just fine, but I have grey bars above and below the image. My viewer and canvas are in 4:3 ratio. Can anyone explain how to get the viewer and canvas into a 16:9 ratio?
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Green screen in both viewer and canvas

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White Viewer and Canvas screens in FC Studio & Not an Idiot

iMac
2.66 GHz Core Duo
2GB RAM
OS X 10.5.8
FCS 3
The viewer and canvas have apparently decided to flip to white and remain there. But first, they decided they'd rather display a strange, posterized/solarized version of whatever clip was loaded at the time.
Viewer prefs set properly to RGB
Background set to black.
Changing display prefs from millions to thousands then back again - fail.
Clean reinstall of FC Studio - fail.
QT test clip - 720x480, DV/DVCPRO - NTSC
Any ideas?

Viewer prefs set properly to RGB<</div>
Okay, you know that one. Good.
Background set to black. <</div>
Completely irrelevant. Not good.
Changing display prefs from millions to thousands then back again - fail. <</div>
Right, but a restart of FCP or the Mac might also be part of that debug just to rule out all possibilities.
Clean reinstall of FC Studio - fail. <</div>
Of course. Reinstalling Apple software is the LAST thing we'd suggest. Well, it's the last thing I would suggest. It is almost always a complete waste of time for a long list of reasons but mainly for only one: unlike Windows apps, Apple software just doesn't work that way.
QT test clip - 720x480, DV/DVCPRO - NTSC <</div>
Okie dokie. When you play this clip in QT what happens?
when you launch Motion and attempt to run a previously saved comp what happens?
Any ideas? < </div>
Debugging your particular issue is not going to be easy. Trying to figure out if it's FCP, QT, your graphics card, your monitor, or some other weird and obscure setting is a question, largely, of having a good feel for your system's behaviors and application inventory and history.
Stick with it, we're going to be asking you some really idiotic questions and asking you to perform some really lame tests.
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Strange query plans, and so different results from a view.

In my database (11g), I have a currency exchange rate table, which contains all currencies and their exchange rate to USD. I need to have a number of different exchange rates - To GBP, EUR, etc...
To accomplish this I have created a view, which has one union statement of all the USD exchange rates, with the same data joined back on itself to give the exchange rates based on their exchange rate to USD - ie: SELECT b1.Date, b1.Currency AS FromCurrency, b2.Currency as ToCurrency, b1.Rate/b2.Rate as Exchange Rate FROM Rates b1, Rates b2 on b1.Date = b2.Date
This view works fine when I query it, and returns the data as I expect.
I have a second view that is joined to this view to give a return of the amount in each currency for reporting. This view seems to work correctly when I narrow down the search requirements and have a small set of data.
The issue I am having is when I query the second view and get it to return all the data. Instead of receiving 4 rows per transaction (I am only interested in 4 exchange rates for display) I typically receive up to 2 rows. The first record is for the conversion to USD, the second record is for the conversion to the supplied currency. The issue is that this exchange rate actually includes the aggregate for all 3 other requested currencies (not the USD).
So instead of getting something like:
Amt RC BC (Amt = Amount, RC = Reporting Currency. BC = Base Currency)
60 GBP GBP
80 EUR GBP
100 USD GBP
1000 ZAR GBP
60 GBP USD
80 EUR USD
100 USD USD
1000 ZAR USD
I get the following set of results:
1140 GBP GBP
100 USD GBP
100 USD USD
Has anyone come accross something similar or have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
Thanks
PS: I can get both sets of results from the same view depending on the filter criteria. Also if I convert the exchange rates into a table, it then returns the correct results as expected.

943081 wrote:
The idea is to seek help in solving the problem. I was hoping that perhaps someone had experienced the same thing - different results for "effectively" the same query:Well, that's the issue... without additional info, it's not clear what issue you were seeing.
SELECT * FROM view WHERE Date = '01 January, 2012'
verse
SELECT * FROM view WHERE Date > '31 December, 2011' ORDER BY DateNow it's a bit clearer. That second query is not "effectively" the same as the first query. If the date column is in DATE format, then you ought to have a to_date() around the date string to explicitly convert it into a date so you can do date-to-date comparisons correctly. Also, DATE datatype stores times as well as dates, so asking for data matching midnight of a specific date is different than asking for data greater than midnight of the previous day.
If the date string is a string, then ... well, the string "31 December 2011" is greater than the string "31 August 2013", despite it being an earlier date. This is why making sure you're using the right datatype for the job is important - a date is different to a string that just happens to contain a date.
DateID
I have no objection to using a Date but always struggle to understand what someone means when they tell me "06/07/2012" - granted if the day is above 12 or the same day and month I don't have a problem - but it still leaves 121 days a year that are confusing. sure, but just because you find outputting the display (or rather, someone else's output) confusing doesn't mean you still shouldn't use the correct datatype. Store things as a date, and you can then output it in whatever format you like. Try doing that with a string or a number.
Don't say it doesn't happen as I got a birthday card from a company in May this year when I have specifically entered my date of birth as being the 5 of a month (name drop down box on their website)!Just because someone else doesn't understand how to work with dates correctly doesn't mean you can't! It's not exactly rocket science, after all!*{;-)

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But sometimes it's giving an entirely different number.
Can anybody explain what it's showing when not the duration between the IN and OUT (or the entire clip length if no IN's or OUT's)?
And what makes the difference between why it's showing the duration or not (when IN AND OUT points are present).
Thanks.

I'm not sure what else it would be showing you. Only thing I can think would mess it up is you have a time code break within the clip that is messing up the count.
rh

Color settings in viewer and canvas?

Have been experimenting with some custom presets of the Canon XH A1.
After importing in FCP the footage seemed very colorful -- mostly much warmer.
Played the same clips in quicktime and they looked completely different, much more nuanced, natural and as intended.
Is there a way to change the color settings of the viewer and the canvas in FCP?
thanks
KC

#49 - Quicktime movie lighter than what I see in FCP.
Shane's Stock Answer #49 - Why is the Quicktime Movie I made much lighter than what I see in my timeline in FCP?
Because it is designed to be bright enough to be seen on most monitors, some that might be too dark. But, if you want to see the same image you see in your FCP timeline, just open Quicktime, and in the Quicktime Player's preferences window under the General tab you can choose to Enable Final Cut Studio color compatibility.
Shane

Viewer and Canvas are whacked

FCP 5.0.3 works great on my iMac G4 (Flat panel) 15"
So, I get a shiny new 17" Powerbook (brand new 120GB/DDR2 model) - spend 2.5 hours installing FinalCut Studio and begin moving projects over.
Low and behold - I capture some video in standard DV (4.3) and all goes well. BUT, when I try to view it in either the Viewer or drop it into the timeline and look at it in the Canvass - I get audio - but the video is STUCK.
If I click elsewhere in the timeline (viewer and canvass) - I see the new frame. This only works on the first click. I try to play or scrub - I hear audio, but the video is stuck on that or the first frame.
The same happens with imported video. All video I am dealing with are FCP native - either exported from FCP or captured through FCP.
I have even carefully compared my settings (user, system and AV Devices) with those settings on my iMac.
Only differences between machines is:
iMac = 1GB RAM/160GB HDD and 15" LCD Screen (1440x900/millions/iMac profile)
Powerbook = 512MB RAM (New RAM not yet available) / 120GB HDD/17" LCD screen (1680x1050/millions/color lcd profile)
Both systems have the same OSX Tiger and FCS updates.
GAWD - any help will be GREATLY appreciated.
Kind rgards

SHEESH - I found my own answer after some real experimenting.
BTW - I intend to crank this thing to 2GB - when the RAM becomes available to buy (not available, yet, tho - channel trickle is slow)
ANYWAY -
I found that external video was playing great. So I opened the same project on both computers and went through the menus ONE-BY-ONE to find the difference.
Well - I found the answer.
RECAP:
Video was not playing in viewer or canvas when scrubbed to played. Just a frozen frame.
HOWEVER, the video was playing fine externally.
I don't know if this is how it is supposed to work, but this setting seemed to cause the problem:
Make the timeline the active window.
Select: VIEW>EXTERNAL VIDEO>OFF - this fixed the problem. It was set to ALL FRAMES - which seemed to cause the problem.
There - answer discovered for anyone else who may run into this.
And - thank you, Studio X for your incredibly fast reply. Though I may not have explained the problem clearly as your answer was tried before I posted (it also is the answer to a few other problems I've seen in other posts)
Kind regards, All.

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