Differing CMYK in Acrobat and Photoshop

I read different CMYK values for the same PDF file in Acrobat and Photoshop. (Acrobat 9 and Photoshop CS4)
I read the colours in Photoshop after opening the file as 16-bit CMYK. I read the colours for the same PDF file in Acrobat in Output Preview (Point Sample).
Amongst the most noticeable is black:
Photoshop:
C=75%
M=68
Y=67
K=90
Acrobat:
C=0%
M=0
Y=0
K=100
How can that be? Which one to believe?

If your assumption is correct, I don't understand why Photoshop would overrule the CMYK colours in the PDF and interpret them differently, especially since when opening the PDF in Photoshop, I select the CMYK 16-bit option.
Why not? You are merely tagging the objects and force-overriding the color conversion rule based on the original state they were embeded in. Nothing gets ever truly converted in the sense it would in PS. This is merely a way of fixing issues in pre-press and generating the ink plates based thereon and IMO PS is correct in ignoring these device dependent settings and uses its own color management to convert. The way I see it, there is nothing wrong here.
Mylenium

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Hi,
I posted this in the Acrobat forum and haven't had a response yet. I am also posting here since it is related to both Acrobat and Photoshop, in case someone in the Photoshop forum can respond. Thanks.
I read different CMYK values for the same PDF file in Acrobat and Photoshop. (Acrobat 9 and Photoshop CS4)
I read the colours in Photoshop after opening the file as 16-bit CMYK. I read the colours for the same PDF file in Acrobat in Output Preview (Point Sample).
Amongst the most noticeable is black:
Photoshop:
C=75%
M=68
Y=67
K=90
Acrobat:
C=0%
M=0
Y=0
K=100
How can that be? Which one to believe?

If your assumption is correct, I don't understand why Photoshop would overrule the CMYK colours in the PDF and interpret them differently, especially since when opening the PDF in Photoshop, I select the CMYK 16-bit option.
Why not? You are merely tagging the objects and force-overriding the color conversion rule based on the original state they were embeded in. Nothing gets ever truly converted in the sense it would in PS. This is merely a way of fixing issues in pre-press and generating the ink plates based thereon and IMO PS is correct in ignoring these device dependent settings and uses its own color management to convert. The way I see it, there is nothing wrong here.
Mylenium

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Proof Colors turned On.
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I expect I'm missing some difference in the two apps' behaviour.
Any info from anyone experienced in this corner of the field appreciated.
Cheers
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