Difficult overclocking i7-4770k on an MSI Z97-G45

Hi,
I have tried some very modest overclocks with my machine, but it does not seem to like it very much at all (random reboots etc).
I posted in the sticky thread about the G-SKILL RAM, and tried some suggested timings (DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50V), but I still had problems (random reboot happened a day or so later).
I am now back to complete defaults for everything, which seems to be the only configuration that has not yet crashed. I'm quite new to OCing, so can anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting this?
For reference, my hardware is as follows:
- MSI Z97-G45 (BIOS is the default that was installed when I bought it ~July).
- 4 x 8 GB G.Skill Ares DDR3 1866
- i7-4770K
- Zotac 4GB 770 GTX
Thanks!

My suggestion is update to the latest BIOS since it's improved RAM compatibility.
And see this compatibility report for OC memory, but crucial only tho..
http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z97-G45-GAMING.html#support-ocmem

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    This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=251097.0

    My suggestion is update to the latest BIOS since it's improved RAM compatibility.
    And see this compatibility report for OC memory, but crucial only tho..
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    First of all, Z97-G45 has a fast boot in official specification on MSI Global and Gaming 5 does not say anything about it. Does it mean that Gaming 5 boots long? How I should understand that?
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    So.. are these two's 8 pin power supply compatible with the cpu?
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