Digital Cinema Desktop Preview?

Hi there
Just wondering if it's possible to run Color with 2 screens using one screen as the UI+Scopes and the second screen as full screen Digi Cinema Desktop Preview?
(I see the standard Video out options as FCP has, but they are all ghosted and can't be selected...)
Would an extra PCIex Graphics card allow it, or would I need to get an AJA Kona or similar ?
Thnx!

The configuration you are suggesting is "the way it used to be" for non-Kona/Blackmagic Final Touch users. The scopes were imbedded in the UI primary screen where the "Curves" now are, for example in the Primary Room. The second screen (DVI #2 output on your GPU) was full-screen Preview/Program out. Why it was switched around...??? I understand that the 'curves' adjustment strategy helps those who don't have control panels, in that a 'knack' for them can evolve, usually for tablet/stylus drag artists. Never use them, myself.
Its lovely having three screens, the third being an approved grade-level, calibrated monitor, hanging off the end of a real SDI-Video card, with a full-raster/full time waveform/vector/gamut alarm scope. Not much guesswork after that. Takes some investment, though. If you do have all the toys, outboard scopes, panels and multi-screens, the amount of wasted space in the UI becomes obvious.
As a side-note, I would only use the curves if trying to correct, or emulate, badly damaged film ( eg. severe dye-layer fading). Otherwise you are messing with gamma-point, more than correction. I'm open to debate on that one, though. Seems like most video, especially and particularly the pro-sumer highly compressed formats, don't have the jam to withstand much serious value reassignment.
COLOR will not boot with more than one PCIe card installed/in use. I have heard of users working around that by unplugging the monitor from the second card. Kinda defeats the purpose, though...
jPo

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Been a while since I needed the forum, hope someone out there can help. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
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Thanks for all of your time.
No second monitor connected. Yes, have tried other formats.
I don't think I am going to do a complete clean install of the entire OS and all my apps, just FCP6. I have copies of FCP X and CS6 installed on another Mac Pro that have been waiting to be played with. I just need to get this project finished. It is a college graduation w/ a RT of 1:54:00 (the horror). While I am play with FCPX and CS6, I'll do a reinstall of FCP6 just because I am curious.
I plan on purchasing five LCDs next week for previewing, so this my not even be that much of a big deal.
As for cloning, for whatever reason, it gives me anxiety. In all my years, 12+ years of owning Macs, I have yet to clone my system. Again for whatever reason, I don't really trust myself that I would do it the correct way. I have a copy of CarbonCopy but never used it .
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I managed to use the function "Digital Cinema Desktop Preview-Principal"
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What happens if you hit Apple-F12?
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So far so good.... Thanks Andy!
I did look through the previous posts, but must have missed that one. I just replaced the "DesktopVideoout.component" file. It seems to be working! The real test will be after a day of editing later this weekend. Thank You! And Happy Thanksgiving!
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Jeff,
First thank you for responding. It is nice to know you're not alone in this world when FCP let you down.
I looked at the other post. I don't have the space which you are talking about. It's just the same as your screen shot. No line spaces.
Maybe this additional info will be of any help:
When I installed FCP 5 I got an error message the first time I started FCP 5. Missing Digital Cinema Desktop Preview. It was the same message you get when you forget to switch on your camera. It tells you that the Fire Wire device is missing. You can either click "check again" or choose "continue".
After I choose continue I never got the message again.
I checked if the /Library/QuickTime/DesktopVideoOut.component was missing. I found out that there is absolutely nothing in the folder /Library/QuickTime/ not the folder which is in the library directly under the root directory of the hard disk nor in the library which is situated under "user/library/QuickTime/
Could that be the problem not only missing 1 file, but missing maybe lots of files.
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I'm trying to solve this problem for about 7 days. I can't find anything about this topic. Lots of problems about capturing in FCP 4. I had this problem as well but fixed it, thanks too this forum.
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I upgraded my Mac to Tiger 10.4.3 and I worked for about 2 weeks with FCP HD. Then I upgraded FCP HD to FCP 5. Now FCP only sees the Fire Wire external video when I go to the menu "View" and click "Video Playback". I used to see the Digital Cinema Desktop Preview-Main and Digital Cinema Desktop Preview-RAW options.
I thought it was the same problem with Quicktime 7 automatic install again. So I manually installed Quicktime 7 without any success.
I removed the preferences out of the ~/library/preferences/.
My 2 screens are on the AGP-bus, because that is necessary I read on this forum.
Can anybody give me a tip how solve this problem. If you need more info just tell me.
Thanx in advance
Maarten

Jeff,
First thank you for responding. It is nice to know you're not alone in this world when FCP let you down.
I looked at the other post. I don't have the space which you are talking about. It's just the same as your screen shot. No line spaces.
Maybe this additional info will be of any help:
When I installed FCP 5 I got an error message the first time I started FCP 5. Missing Digital Cinema Desktop Preview. It was the same message you get when you forget to switch on your camera. It tells you that the Fire Wire device is missing. You can either click "check again" or choose "continue".
After I choose continue I never got the message again.
I checked if the /Library/QuickTime/DesktopVideoOut.component was missing. I found out that there is absolutely nothing in the folder /Library/QuickTime/ not the folder which is in the library directly under the root directory of the hard disk nor in the library which is situated under "user/library/QuickTime/
Could that be the problem not only missing 1 file, but missing maybe lots of files.
Maarten

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I am missing this option from View/Video Out on my MacBook Pro with a working second monitor, even after a 'refresh devices'.
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I've done the following to troubleshoot:
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- Ended all other processes in the dock save Finder & Dashboard
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Message was edited by: caxa_fe

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