Direct and flexible update

Hi,
In the infopackage of a masterdata object which is having direct update i.e; no infosource in between masterdataobject and the datasource, can the option under processing " only psa and update subsequntly in Data targets" be checked.
This option is available for flexible update masterdata objects where as for directupdate objects this option is disabled in the infopackage.
Kindly clarify if this option is possible or not.
Regards,
Geetha

Hi,
U shall get the option in both scenarios, irrespective of direct or flexible update.
But if your datasource is a 7.x datasource the infopackage will be defaulted to load till PSA only
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Rathy

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