Direct procurement in Classic

Experts,
Need your help once again.
I have implemented direct procurement in Classic scenario (SRM 7/ECC 6.0) and after reading on this forum, I realised that Direct procurement in classic, functions as extended classic because a local PO is created in SRM and this is replicated to ECC. So far this is working for me.
Now I want to make changes to this PO. It is not allowing me to edit PO in ECC which is right because PO was created in SRM and copied to ECC. But strangely, I am unable to edit PO in SRM also?
Is this correct behaviour?
Please suggest.
Best Regards,
John

Hi John,
For direct procurement, it will have nothing to do with CS or ECS.
SRM will create the local PO for direct material and transfer the PO into ERP. And you could not change the PO in ERP.
Regards,
Guoyu

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