Direct Ship orders - Purchse Requisation ME51N - AFS - Third Party orders
Hello,
There is a user exit EXIT_SAPLJ3AM_003 which exist in 4.6C version of SAP for AFS.
This user exit is for Third Party order processes. This is called within the include LJ3AMFD1 of the main program SAPLJ3AM.
But this User exit is missing in ECC version of SAP for AFS.
Basically when the Dierct ship Sales Order is created, corresponding PR is created for it and using this User exit certain fields in this corresponding Purchase Requisition is filled from Sales Order but this user exit is missing in ECC system.
Could anyone please let me know how SAP handles the Third party Orders in ECC AFS system?
Thanks,
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How SAP handles AFS Third Party Orders in ECC system?
Hi All,
There is a user exit EXIT_SAPLJ3AM_003 which exist in 4.6C version of SAP for AFS.
This user exit is for Third Party order processes. This is called within the include LJ3AMFD1 of the main program SAPLJ3AM.
But this User exit is missing in ECC version of SAP for AFS.
Basically when the Dierct ship Sales Order is created, corresponding PR is created for it and using this User exit certain fields in this corresponding Purchase Requisition is filled from Sales Order but this user exit is missing in ECC system.
Could anyone please let me know how SAP handles the Third party Orders in ECC AFS system?
Thanks,
AmeeshaHi Ameesha,
Did u find out any solution for it? bcoz, am also hving the same issue!!
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Order related Inter-company Billing (Third Party Order)
Hi SAP Gurus,
We are using SAP R/3 4.6C version. Normally, the inter-company billing are delivery related and this is working fine. I am configuring the order related Inter-company billing, i.e. Third Party drop shipment with Inter-company. I refered to SAP notes 203876, 63459, 381042 and maintained the copy control between OR => IVA (for TAS) as follows:
Copying requirement = '013',
Invoiced quantity = 'F', (*)
Quantity/value = '+',
Pricing type = 'G'.
The issue I am facing is when I try to create an Inter-company invoice (after the F2 Customer invoice), the End customer details is being pulled instead of the Inter-company customer details. In other words the Inter-company invoice is also being issued to the End customer. Also the prices are showing in negative.
Kindly share with me if any of you guys know a solution for this. I have searched all the SAP forums, but couldn't find a similar issue.
My concern here is, in none of the SAP notes, there is no information about the copying requirement at the header level between OR=>IVA. I am not sure whether this is causing the issue.
Regards,
SaravananHello Mrinal,
Please review the note 381042 Order-related intercompany billing in Releases.
o Report RVIVAUFT instead of report ZZIVAUFT
o Standard requirement 036 'Item/order related IB'
Use this requirement in the copying requirement for billing
documents for your process flow.
o Standard requirement 018 'Order-related IB' instead of
customer-specific output requirement 990.
Use this requirement in the output determination procedure of
your billing documents (in the standard system, this is procedure
V10000 'Billing outputs') for output type RDIV.
o Standard ouptput type RDIV instead of customer-specific output
type ZZIV. -
Sales Order and Purchase Order linkage in tables for third party orders
Hi all ,
For third party process order s
In which table can I find the Sales order and Purchase Order linkage .
thanks
ksrHi Sridhar ,
Refer Table EKKN for PO and SO Linkage.
Table EBKN for PR and SO Linkage.
Regards
Ramesh Ch -
Third-Party Order Fulfillment Process Scenario
Hello,
I would like to know if any of you have come across a use case where the Third-Party Order Fulfillment is Not based on the Supplier/Manufacturer shipping out the material directly But the Buyer (and in some cases even end User/customer) arranges this themselves. This is very common in International Trade where the Buyer/Business arranges the shipment themselves by using the services of a Freight Forwarder who Ships the material to the end user/customer after the Supplier/Manufacturer has made the Material available. In such cases the actual Shipment could take days or weeks from when Material is made ready by the Suppliers.
Currently the Third-Party Order Fulfillment Process assumes only one scenario and that is the Supplier will ship the material and inform their Buyer of Delivery. But in International Trade this is not the case and the Incoterms in the Purchase Order can be different to the Incoterms in the Sales order example in the PO the incoterms could be Ex-Works and in the SO CIF.
This leads to requirement of ASN and separate Inbound and Outbound Delivery and their separate Release in this Process as well.
These are not currently supported in the Third-Party Order Fulfillment process thus the Third-Party Order Fulfillment process in ByD has a very limited use in its current form.
If there are other users who have come across this as well then it would be nice to have your comments and possible workaround.
Best regards
NickThere is no standard SAP solution for this requirement.
You can trigger output from inbound delivery document to generate EDI output and send delivery information to customer.
You will require to define custom output type , partner profile and link with custom fucntion module.
FM should have logic to pick information from 3rd party sales order and inbound ASN and generate IDOC
Hope this solution will work for your requirement -
HI SAP GURUS
CAN ANY ONE HELP ME OUT
1. WHAT IS THIRD PARTY ORDERING? HOW WE CONFIGURE THIRD PARTY ORDERING ? DOES DELIVERY OCCURS IN THIRD PARTY ORDERING? WHEN
2. IF I HAVE GOT 4PLANTS HTEN HOW MANY BILLING CAN BE DONE?
3. AFTER PGI WHAT HAPPENS IN FI ? WHICH ACCOUNT IS CREDITED WHICH ONES DEBITED?
4. IN PRICING PROCEDURE I HAVE NET PRICE AS Rs100 AND TAX IS Rs30 THE TOTAL IS Rs130. WHICH ACCOUNT ISDEBITED AND WHICH ACCOUNT IS CREDITED?
5. HOW STOREGE LOCATION IS DETERMINED? WHAT IS MALA AND WHAT IS RITA
THANKS AND REGARDS
RAMHi ram
this is the process of third party.
process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
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Thanks & Regards
Mubeen. -
Ship to Warehouse in Third Party Orders
Hi Everyone,
In Case of Third Party Orders, Let me know the configuratins that needs to be done if we want the warehouse Nos. has to be selected as Ship to Party Information in SO/PR/PO.
This is required in case we need a third party Item to be diverted to Warehouse instead of delivery to the customer directly from the vendor.
Thanks & Regards
Pradeep M JHi,
Go through this link Third party With shipping notification
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/V5600/BBLibrary/HTML/107_EN_IN.htm
in this link go to Technical Details for Config Guide
Business Details for Business Process.
Hope useful. -
Change ship-to address in third-party order
Hello gurus,
we have got a little probelm here:
We got a third-party order from one of our customers. The goods are to be delivered not to the "normal" adress of that customer, but to another site. So, we would like to change the ship-to address in this individual customer order or at least in the purchase requisition or PO for our vendor.
Unfortunatelly SAP does not let me do either of those things. The "normal" adress of the customer master ercord is always written to the purchase requisition and I cannot change it after the requisition has been created.
Any ideas on this?
Thanks AliciaHello,
If you believe your customer has the delievery receiving address different from the Sold-to-party. Follow below steps:
1. Please create a ship-to-party (use appropriate Account group as per your project. Standard account Group- 0002).
2. Link the ship-to-party to the sold to party by going to tcode XD02 - Sales area data-partner function tab and select partner functin SH and then Assign the newly created ship-to-party to sold-to-party.
[Note: If your sold-to-party has multiple ship-to locations, then add new SH partner function in your sold-to-party partner function tab and link the newly created ship-to-party and follow the same for all your multiple ship-tos for the sold-to]
OR
1. Create Stand alone shipto Party (Account Group-0002) and do not link it to any sold to party.
2. Link the new stand alone ship-to-party during sales order creation.
You can change the ship-to-party in two locations.
a. Header Level - From sales order- goto - Header - Partners (applicable to whole document)
b. Item Level - Double click the Item - Got0 - Item - Partner (applicable to Item only)
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
Ram. -
Third Party Order With Shipping Notification
Hi SD folks,
What is the Movement type we need to enter to do a dummy GR for third party order with shipping notification.
Regards,
Rahul101
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Should Third party order items appear in mD04
Dear experts,
We create third party orders where material is directly shipped to our customer from our vendors, material does not come to our inventory, why such orders appear in MD04 , not only orders the PO created for such delivery also appears, we use planning strategy 40 for the material.
I will appreciate If any one can explain why such orders should appear in MD04 and affect planning.
Thanks in advance.
Anand TripathiThey should not be, self answered
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Third party order processing in Thailand
Hi,
does anyone know that for third party order processing in Thailand, where goods are shipped directly from the vendor to the customer, is it a legal requirement for Thailand to keep track of the in and out movement of the goods in SAP although the goods did not actually come in to the company before going to customer?
If that's the case, how can we handle this in the SAP system? Do we need to do goods receipt and then goods issue out from the inventory to record all the movement for the direct shipment?
please can anyone shed any lights on the above.
Thank you.
KTHi,
the third party process is as fillows:
1. Item category is TAS and schedule line should be CS
2. MM01 general item category group is BANS
3. item category determination should be in T_184 table ORBANSNIL+NIL=TAS
4. schedule line detrnination should be TAS+NIl=CS
5. process OR (VA01) and get the purchase requisition number from VA02
6. wrt PR create purchase order.
7. wrt PO verndor supplies stock directly to ur customer
8. vertually u do GR in MIGO, that goes to directly stock consumption because ur accounts have to be updated to that extent.(u dont do delivery and PGI, u receive GR that goes to consumption stock dierectly)
9. Vendor message comes to u as goods supplied that u make settings PO item views
10. basing on that you send the F2 to ur customer in VF01
10. vendor sends invoice to you.
hope this will hilp u
regards,
sk -
Procurement cycle in third party order and stock transport order.
please provide me in steps the procurement cycle in third party order and stock transport order.
Hi,
STO Process: -
1.Create a vendor for the company code of receiving plant, using account group :0007 using T-Code XK01.
2. Assign this vendor to Delivering plant
Go to XK02 >Purchasing view>Extras>Add. Purchasing data>Plant
3. Create internal customer with the sales area of the vendor. Go To XD01
4. In Pricing procedure determination relevant to STO, assign document Pricing Procedure and customer pricing procedure appropriate for STO to get the pricing in the invoice.
5. Maintain condition records for the relevant pricing condition.
6. Some more setting for STO: Go to MM> Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > define shipping data for plants > Go to Receiving plant >assign customer here & Supplying SA (for billing) to Receiving plant here
7. Go to MM > Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > define shipping data for plants > Go to Supplying plant and assign the sales area of receiving plant.
8. Go to MM > Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > assign delivery Type & Checking rule
Assign the delivery type to document type. In this case, Delivery type NLCC is assigned to Document type NB
9. Go to MM> Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > Assign document Type, One step Procedure, Under delivery tolerance
Assign the document type NB to supplying plant and receiving plant
10. After all settings , Create the STO using T-Code:ME21N and maintain pricing conditions of freight and Save.
11. Create Delivery :VL10G
Click on the Background Button after selecting line item
A message is flashed : See log for information> next Click on Log for delivery creation Button >click on line item>click on document button to get Delivery document No
12. Picking, PGI:VL02N
13. Billing:VF01
Save the document and its done
14. J1IIN - Outgoing Excise Invoice
15. MIGO - Goods Receipt against outbound Delivery
16. J1IEX - Capture & Post Excise Invoice
Pricing configuration for STO: -
In SPRO > MM > Purchasing > Conditions > Define Price Determination Process > Define Schema Determination > Determine Schema for Stock Transport Orders > Here assign Calculation Schema "RM2000" i.e. Stock Transfer Document to Schema Grp Pur. Org, STO Type (For e.g. UB) and Supplying Plant.
Calculation Schema "RM2000" has condition type P101 which will pick up the MAP of supplying plant automatically during creation of STO in ME21N ("Conditions" Tab).
You can create new freight / delivery cost conditions in M/06 and assign in pricing procedure "RM2000" in M/08 and also assign the Accrual Key to this and do the Account Determination for this Accrual Key in OBYC
At the time of PGI, following accounting entry will get generated;
Stock A/c - Dr - 110 INR (Receiving Plant)
Stock A/c - Cr - 100 INR (Supplying Plant)
Freight Clearing A/c - Cr - 10 INR (Supplying Plant)
Third Party Process Flow: -
1) MM01 - General Item category Group should be BANS in basic view of material master.
2) VA01 - Creation of sales order with VA01 transaction in SD module
3) When sales order is created system automatically creates a PR for the material with item category as "S"--> Third Party Item
4) ME21N - Directly PO with item category as "S" and delivery address as customer address
5) MIGO - Statistical GR by MM ( When it is made goods are received and delivered)
6) MIRO - Invoice by MM for vendor
7) VF01 - Billing by SD on Customers -
Route Schedule in Third Party Orders
We have made the necessary setting for the determination of Route and Route Schedule, but unfortunately the route schedule is not getting picked in the Third party order, but it works wonderfully with outbound delivery orders...
Is there any other setting to trigger the RS for 3rd party orders? or is it that SAP doesnt support RS for 3rd party orders as there is no actual delivery happening?
Regards
RajDear Babu,
As, in Third-Party Orders, theres is no Material-Movement (shipping) from Plant; Route Schedule will not be applicable. Customer places an order on to you and you have placed an order to your vendor, who will directly deliver the goods to your customer.
Best Regards,
Amit.
Note: A very informative thread, on to Route-Schedule:
[Route Schedule|Route schedule] -
How to configure third party order ?
how to configure third party order ? and how the business know that the customer has received the goods so that invoice to be raised?
hi shoban,
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always followwing a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procument type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurment ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to confugure the item category determination
ord type + item cat grp + usge + Hiv level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN . + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevnat for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line cateogry for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requision order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requiesion.
Hope it helps
Mastan -
Hi All,
I ve tried my luck by posting this question some time back but had no response. Want to try once more.
The scenario is with Third Part Order Processing. We have some third party orders. The vendor manufactires the goods and ships it directly to the customer. Fine till here. But since the order is placed with our client, we need to send an ASN out to the customer. If we do not send an ASN out we attract chargebacks from teh customer. To send ASN out we need to have deliveries and TPO Orders do not have deliveries.
Any idea how to overcome this GAP? Last time when I posted this question, I did not get a single response. Its surprising that no client had ever come up with this requirement.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. All the help documents only talk about recieving the Vendor ASNs in teh company and auto creation of inbound deliveries. Our requirement is to send ASNs out to Customer.
Thanks & Regards,
Vidya SagarHi,
Then go with the option you have mentioned earlier All the help documents only talk about recieving the Vendor ASNs in teh company and auto creation of inbound deliveries.
Once the inboud delivery is created, you can send the ASN from the inbound delivery document. To complete the process, just do PGR of the inbound delivery and no need to do MIGO. In SPRO, check the settings for Inbound delivery document type, remove all the check marks pertaining to MRP (then inbound delivery type is excluded from MD04 records). Check the path Go to path SPRO -> Materials management -> Inventory managment and physical inventory ->Rough goods receipt for inbound delivery settings.
Regards,
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