DISABLING COLOR MANAGEMENT & PAPER SIZE

After some struggling and considerable surfing the internet, I managed to get my HP Deskjet printer output producing the proper colors.
However I still have an ongoing problem with paper size and orientation.
I have Photoshop Elements 7 running under Windows XP.
Under the current set up, under "Page Setup" in the print dialog box, I can select 6x4 borderless and landscape orientation, but the printer will still print it in portrait orientation on 8.5 x 11" paper. I have seen many times where I have selected "Landscape" in Photoshop but the image in the preview windows shows Portrait. Or the preview is oriented portrait but the picture within the preview is a cropped landscape version of the image. Or the preview picture is landscape but the landscape-portrait button shows portrait. Obviously there are portrait images and portrait printings, but Photoshop seems to get them confused and wants to print a landscape image in a portrait orientation.
If I hit "Print" and then go to "Preferences" in the Windows printer dialog box, if I select "landscape borderless 6x4", it will print a 6x4 image on letter sized paper, ignoring the orientation and paper size I selected. And if I re-enter the Windows printer dialog box, will show "letter" again as the current paper size, although I had not selected that previously.
I have "Photoshop Elements manages colors" selected, but then a warning message appears asking if I have disabled color management in the printer preferences dialog. I cannot find any way to disable color management in Windows XP or in Photoshop. (If this has anything to do with my problem.)
Help!
Leo Foss, Ottawa, Canada

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RIK,
Some printers have long names, esp. HP printers, and PSE gets ":confused." In control panel>devices and printers, right click on the default printer, go to printer properties, and rename the default printer to something short, e.g. "Our Printer." That may fix it..

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