Disadvantages of taking user manged backup directly on tape

Hi,
I have oracle 10.2.0.4 database on aix 5.3 Operating system.
My all the datafiles,controlfiles,logfiles reside on /oradb filesystem.
I have shut down the database & listner, & without copying all the database files into another file system.
I have inform to backup team to take backup directly on tape by giving database file liocation /oradb.
Please let me know the disadvantages of taking backup directly on tape by using user managed backup.
Regards,

All the list points are advantage of rman and are not available in user-managed so are the disadvantage of user-managed.
==> There are simpler backup and recovery commands.
==> It automatically manages the backup files without DBA intervention.
==> It automatically deletes unnecessary backup datafiles and archived redo log files both from disk and tape.
==> It provides you with detailed reporting of backup actions.
==> It provides considerable help in duplicating a database or creating a standby database.
==> It lets you test whether you can recover your database, without actually restoring data.
==> It lets you verify that available backups are usable for recovery.
==> It lets you make incremental backups, which isn’t possible by any other means of backup.
==> It lets you perform database duplication without backups by using the network-enabled database duplication feature, also known as active duplication.
==> It automatically detects corrupt data blocks during backups, with the corruption relevant information recorded in the V$DATABASE_BLOCK_CORRUPTION view.
==> When only a few data blocks are corrupted, you can recover at the data block level, instead of recovering an entire datafile.
==> You can take advantage of the unused block compression feature, wherein RMAN skips unused data blocks during a backup.
==> Only RMAN provides the ability to perform encrypted backups.
==> You can use RMAN with a variety of third-party storage systems.
==> You can use a powerful yet easy-to-use scripting language, which lets you write custom
backup and recovery scripts quickly.
Hope this may help u ..
--neeraj

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